Stress!

[Hitcher]

OK - if you're going to be a pedantrist, it's "tutu-ing".

Pedant, not pedantrist (said a pedant, pedantically)

Pedant = One who pays undue attention to book learning and formal rules.

[vifferman]

Pedant, not pedantrist (said a pedant, pedantically)

Pedant = One who pays undue attention to book learning and formal rules.

Wrong rat! You set off the trap intended for RR!
Obviously you're an ant on foot as well.

[Jackrat]

Worked in a number of very stressfull jobs,stressfull because I worked #1 with heavy machinery then #2 because I worked with people.
Gave it all away six years ago and now I have no real stress at all.
The day starts when I feel like it.The first job is to feed me chooks and me fish, then maybe I go to work if I feel like it,then again I might just go fishing or hunting or just running the dogs up the beach.
My life style means I don't do a lot of things some people do because I can't afford to, but I do a lot of things other people can't because their at work.
My income comes from three part-time jobs that I can do in my own time at my own pace,plus the're all fun if you don't make them work.
I think some of the saddest buggers out there are these people that work hard for a degree just so they can become middle management clones.
I walked away from hundreds of them and have never looked back,now I have it made in the shade thanks.

[Hitcher]

Wrong rat! You set off the trap intended for RR!
Obviously you're an ant on foot as well.

Ooops! RR can take you on over "tutu-ing". Sheesh!

[Big Dog]

My job is stressful, especially when my income is affected by other people in my abscence.

If I get tooo stressed.

Option one: swap jobs with my staff for a day.
two: Sneak on the net for an our.
three: go for a quick blat.
four: play stationm or a good commedy.

98% of my work stress is from staff who ignore the fact that they have a relatively stress free job that pays reasonably well for the level of work / skill required, and take advantage of my good nature, or use labour regulations in ways other than intended to punish me for their imagined hardship.

The other 2% is my pillion complaining to me about how my staff take advantage.

[Big Dog]

Ps. I can offer stress free work. The only stress my staff face is dealing with me before my daily coffee.

My staff can have almost any day they want off if adequate notice is given. My staff know what is expected of them, get more training than they need, and can go home on schedule regardless of business demands. Hours are flexible, and if you require a skill other than the ability to speak english I teach you it.

Shit If I could pay child support + a bike + a home on what I pay
I would demote myself.

[Ms Piggy]

Yeah, well maybe they wouldn't have to do that if the student loan debt wasn't such a weighty problem.
My eldest son is living at home, and even with no board, free food and clothes etc., AND working all weekend in a shitty supermarket job, he still has a horrendous debt - just for course fees!
I reckon that at the very least, tertiary students should receive a benefit to cover their fees, if not the same as the unemployed get for doing nothing.

It's one of the issues that has ALWAYS pissed me off about student allowances. Some students get penalised and not allowed student allowance b/c according to the system their parents earn enough to be able to support them however, if those same students were unemployed the government would allow them to be on the unemployment benefit regardless of their parents income! Where is the logic in that!?? I came from a single parent family so it never affected me & now I'm a mature student it doesn't affect me either but it just doesn't make sense to me.

My student debt is something I don't really think about but stastically it is more difficult for women to pay off their student debt b/c they are more likely to be the one who stays home when she & her partner decide to have kids. I don't have that worry but being 32 now and 36 by the time I graduate will impact on me being able to get that MV Agusta I dream about

I am a student that gets stressed at exam & essay time, I dunno why I just do ok!

[jrandom]

I don't find my job stressful. All sorts of other shite in my life is stressful, but I'm fortunate enough to enjoy what I do for a crust.

For that matter, I guess I'm pretty much doing what I always wanted to do since I was a wee kiddy thinking about What I Wanted to Be When I Grew Up. Mebbe when I'm a bit more olderer still, I'll want what Jackrat has.

Until then, I'll obey the compulsion to avoid the silence in my mind.

[James Deuce]

Pedant, not pedantrist (said a pedant, pedantically)

Pedant = One who pays undue attention to book learning and formal rules.

I thought it was a lovely made up word!

I done stole it.

[Big Dog]

It's one of the issues that has ALWAYS pissed me off about student allowances.

Nah its the loans that get me... 9years $12,500 later I have finally paid for my $3,500 loan for a course that wasn't worth the paper I wasted on study. Me Bitter?

[KATWYN]

Worked in a number of very stressfull jobs,stressfull because I worked #1 with heavy machinery then #2 because I worked with people.
Gave it all away six years ago and now I have no real stress at all.
The day starts when I feel like it.The first job is to feed me chooks and me fish, then maybe I go to work if I feel like it,then again I might just go fishing or hunting or just running the dogs up the beach.
My life style means I don't do a lot of things some people do because I can't afford to, but I do a lot of things other people can't because their at work.
My income comes from three part-time jobs that I can do in my own time at my own pace,plus the're all fun if you don't make them work.
I think some of the saddest buggers out there are these people that work hard for a degree just so they can become middle management clones.
I walked away from hundreds of them and have never looked back,now I have it made in the shade thanks.

You have probably cracked the secret code to being happy EVERYDAY. Your post reminds me of that neat story of a man sitting on a beach frying a fish he had just caught and was approached by a travelling businessman....

[k14]

It's one of the issues that has ALWAYS pissed me off about student allowances. Some students get penalised and not allowed student allowance b/c according to the system their parents earn enough to be able to support them however, if those same students were unemployed the government would allow them to be on the unemployment benefit regardless of their parents income! Where is the logic in that!?? I came from a single parent family so it never affected me & now I'm a mature student it doesn't affect me either but it just doesn't make sense to me.

Oops, i lied about saying i never get stressed. That stresses/pisses me off so badly. Apparantly my parents earn enough to pay for all my course and my living costs etc, i feel a tui ad there they don't give me any money. Yeah maybe they pay for me to come home in the holidays sometimes and don't charge me bored etc when I am home, but that is irreveland imho. The law says that as soon as i am 18 (i think) my parents aren't legally obliged to support me, but this just contradicts that.

I would be better off being on the dole and getting around $150 a week, bullshit i tell you. Don't know why the government doesn't get the fact that if my student loan was lower when I graduate (probably in 10 years or so ) I might consider staying in this country and pay them tax etc, but no, I will be practically forced overseas for better, more plentiful and higher paying jobs.

Ahh well, not going to change by me ranting and raving here, just lets hope National takes the universal living allowance into next election again, if they do I can't see any reason that they wouldn't get the vote of virtually all the students in the country, apart from that stoners that is.

My 2c anyway.

[Hitcher]

While I sympathise greatly with students and their significant student loan debts, I would be interested in hearing alternative views as to how tertiary study could/should be funded.

I don't buy the "taxpayer should stump up for the full cost" argument -- on equity grounds if for no other reason.

There's also a related discussion to be had about New Zealand's current obsession with qualifications -- particularly university "degrees" that have little academic rigor and smell of "degree du jour" -- school leavers' obsession with, fashion, film and basket weaving...

But where are the sparkies, chippies, fencing contractors, shearers, mechanics? Does the country have to grind to a halt before something happens to amend this imbalance??

[merv]

I'd like to see a bond arrangement for students. Work in NZ year for year that you study and your debt gets wiped. Then NZ would benefit from the skills learnt. Could be sorted via IRD.

In my day (the 70s) we basically got paid to go to Uni and I appreciated that. Muldoon got himself into power in 1975 partly by promising the tertiary bursary and our income doubled overnight. While at Uni I ran a car and a bike and finished with money in the bank. In comparison I feel sorry for my kids now running up debt.

Back then fees were paid (had to pay 10% fees in 1973 but then it dropped to zip in 1974 courtesy of Labour Govt) and the only people that suffered were those that flunked a year and their fees wouldn't be paid to do the same course twice.

p.s. to me it stinks that just because your parents have a small amount of money you can't be paid an allowance, you have to take a loan instead. There is no equity in that. The students must deserve the equivalent of the dole at least. Why pay someone doing nothing, yet not pay someone doing stuff (i.e. Uni) that will improve them and an opportunity for improving the country?

[Marmoot]

Taking a day off work from time to time helps.

Well, Mr. Zed. I was kinda hoping to hear the word "pray" in your post. I was wrong

LoL. Just joking.

For me, just going home and a warm hug from the better half cures the day.
Realizing there are other people worse off helps too.