Question for spud(or any cops)

[jrandom]

Ahh but the watchhouse keeper is also the gate keeper. No one gets in or out without him / her knowing about it.

Not at the Takapuna station, but yes, come to think of it, the others I have a passing familarity with *would* require front-desk attention.

Arms officers don't usually want to be bugged with changes of address and renewals etc.

The 10-year license renewals require the full 'character interview' shebang these days. The arms officer has to take care of it, AFAIK. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[spudchucka]

The 10-year license renewals require the full 'character interview' shebang these days. The arms officer has to take care of it, AFAIK. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Yup but what usually happens is that the renewal notice will be accepted at the front desk and forwarded on to the arms officer who will then initiate background checks etc. They will make contact with the applicant at a time that is appropriate in relation checks etc that need to be made. A file needs to be entered and is often then sent on to another person, (vetting officer) that will do the checks for the arms officer. It takes a while and can't all be done over the counter in a few minutes.

[jrandom]

They will make contact with the applicant at a time that is appropriate in relation checks etc that need to be made. A file needs to be entered and is often then sent on to another person, (vetting officer) that will do the checks for the arms officer. It takes a while and can't all be done over the counter in a few minutes.

Yes, I did it myself last year. Took three months from the first walk-in until I got my new license in the mail. I recommend listening to the official advice about starting the renewal process several months before the expiry date on your license, guys!

I wasn't aware that another officer could do the checks, though. In my case the arms officer from Henderson station did it all himself. Must have been a slow week... very nice guy he was, too.

[rettun]

Spud, I was about 30 - 35 minutes from home. And was driving a 4x4, nothing "boyracerish" and wasn't speeding. He just pulled me over for a licence check after "seeing" me in the petrol station...


I didn't come here to winge, I asked mainly for advice. Seems im pretty fucked now anyway, after writing away requesting a court appearance a month ago, I get a call today saying that my fines been passed onto the infringment beuro and I have very slim chance of it getting taken back to the court system to try and fight it.

After all my encounters with the Police I can only say i've met one(lady cop) who was actually nice.. and no im not only talkin about HP, and not all times i was in the "wrong"

/me sighs, they want $2 out of me a week for the next 3 years then fine faaaaaaark em


note no im not gona go on any angry anti police rampages... yet

[Drunken Monkey]

While we really appreciate Spud's (et al) input on our various traffic/police queries, it's his job to uphold the law, not listen to our niggles about the finer points and give you legal advice.

Rettun, if you're truly serious about querying/fighting your infringement, you should be consulting a lawyer. That's going to cost you money - you're going to have to weigh up whether the legal fees and hassle will be worth the fine/license extension - unfortunately often they aren't. If you've written a letter and got no joy, a lawyer is your only smart option if you want to keep on fighting.

[spudchucka]

Spud, I was about 30 - 35 minutes from home. And was driving a 4x4, nothing "boyracerish" and wasn't speeding. He just pulled me over for a licence check after "seeing" me in the petrol station...


I didn't come here to winge, I asked mainly for advice. Seems im pretty fucked now anyway, after writing away requesting a court appearance a month ago, I get a call today saying that my fines been passed onto the infringment beuro and I have very slim chance of it getting taken back to the court system to try and fight it.

After all my encounters with the Police I can only say i've met one(lady cop) who was actually nice.. and no im not only talkin about HP, and not all times i was in the "wrong"

/me sighs, they want $2 out of me a week for the next 3 years then fine faaaaaaark em


note no im not gona go on any angry anti police rampages... yet

Go to the local Court and speak to someone at the fines payment section. Tell them they story and if you want to defend it ask for their advice as to the procedure. If you are still not sure of the best course of action then speak to a lawyer.

I don't want to put you off but I don't really think you will have much luck defending the ticket. The best outcome might be that the JP feels a little sorry for you, (as the circumstances are a little wanky on the behalf of the cop) and gives you a discount on your fine, ($400 is a big pill for anyone to swallow). Keep in mind though that if that situation did transpire you would still be up for Court costs as well, (usually $130) and you might be no better off than if you just paid the fine and you will still get the 25 demerit points.

Good luck and let us know what you decided to do, I'd be interested to know the outcome.

[Skyryder]

Retturn.
Write an explanation to the Minister of Police and send along the a copy of the letter that you sent to the Police if possible send copies of car damage and relevent material. At the same time send copies of relevent letters and material to to your MP. This is important. Make an appoitment to see your local MP in person. Not too sure if you are voting age if not bring parent guardian etc to this meeting. This is a last shot it may or may not work but it seems to me that your offence was caused by circumstances outside of your control. Let's know what happens.

Skyryder

[rettun]

Yeah sorry to hassle the police here, was just curious to the view from the other side of the fence. And can't afford a lawyer. I would have thought a blown up car on my birthday would have been enough for Constable ...

I really cant afford the fine, as i dont have alot of work at the moment and had to buy another car because i couldnt afford to fix the other one hence more money gone..

Am writing a letter and enclosling a copy of the letter I origionally sent them, hoping the JP will take some pity on me if I can get it back to the court system...

I'll keep you posted as stuff hapens if you want to keep an eye on the thread..

Nite

[Bandito]

That's just plain fuckin stupid man - you coulda got someone killed! I reckon a night in the police cells and you would buck up your ideas. You young guys are all the same,You'll get no sympathy from me you,you reckless little shit - thank god I wasn't on the road at the same time!

I was all geared up to go for a ride today BUT now I think I will just stay at home in case some other irresponsible young hoon has slipped through our justice systems net. Shti man this thread is so disturbing I may never ride again!!!

[Lou Girardin]

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I didn't come here to winge, I asked mainly for advice. Seems im pretty fucked now anyway, after writing away requesting a court appearance a month ago, I get a call today saying that my fines been passed onto the infringment beuro and I have very slim chance of it getting taken back to the court system to try and fight it.

Did you pay the fine? If not, it will automatically be referred to the courts.

[rettun]

I wrote away, requesting a court date and it didnt get to them apparently so now i have to fight to get back to the court system(hopfully) to fight it there.

[spudchucka]

I wrote away, requesting a court date and it didnt get to them apparently so now i have to fight to get back to the court system(hopfully) to fight it there.

Like Lou said, don't pay the fine and you will receive a summons to Court.

[rettun]

Like Lou said, don't pay the fine and you will receive a summons to Court.

:spudwhat: ok a lil confused... so I just ignore the form 56(or what ever it is they sent me) and i'll get a court appearance to defend myself against the fine?

thx in advance

[marty]

you're actually better off asking for a 'rehearing'. if you ignore it, a court date will be set, you may or may not get the advice of the court date, and it may come and go without you knowing. if that happened, you would be convicted in your absence, fined, plus court costs. to ask for a rehearing, write to the bureau, asking for one, plus request full disclosure. i'll make up a blank letter and attach it later for you