Ouch ouch my first accident

[Flatcap]

Joe - good points - everyone is out to kill us so ride accordingly

[JeremyW]

Thanks for your concern guys, luckily i came away with only scrapes and bruises. I had a good look at the road rules and it states you may pass on the left if the vehicle you are passing:

has stopped or
is signalling right turn or
is turning right.

And hence I should be fine as all the traffic was dead stopped. Unfortunately it happen just before the bus lane as I was moving into it (coming up to the dom rd, mt albert rd intersection). If anyone disagrees with this PLEASE let me know as I would like to know what arguments might come up.

Has definately taught me a good lesson

So hopefully insurance dosent screw me, being a student it could be a long time before Im riding again if they do

As a note the guy was really good about it, he apologised profusely and took me and my poor bike home in his van.

Thanks again for your concern

[andrea]

Make sure you report the incident to the Police as this will greatly assist in your claim. I learnt this the hard way coz the police fobbed me off and wouldn't take the details from me when I got knocked off my bike.

Don't let them fob you off - if they do ask for their name in order that you can quote them in your formal complaint.

Driving dangerously is a crime - don't let the fuckers get away with it.

yeah good to hear that ur ok, and i hope ur bike gets fixed asap, umm as for cops did u report the accident to them? they have some sort of id number so if u make any enquiries and a cop was there u just qoute their id number.

[Unforgiven]

Good to hear your ok, and good to hear that not everyone does a runner after a crash.

[gijoe1313]

Good to hear you're well and able to post the advent here! Also good to know that the driver didn't do a runner and helped you out there. Sucks being a student eh? No money and any financial setback seems to be be a big bugger - lets hope the insurance comes to the fore and you're back to riding ASAP!

[sAsLEX]

Thanks for your concern guys, luckily i came away with only scrapes and bruises. I had a good look at the road rules and it states you may pass on the left if the vehicle you are passing:

has stopped or
is signalling right turn or
is turning right.

And hence I should be fine as all the traffic was dead stopped. Unfortunately it happen just before the bus lane as I was moving into it (coming up to the dom rd, mt albert rd intersection). If anyone disagrees with this PLEASE let me know as I would like to know what arguments might come up.

Has definately taught me a good lesson

So hopefully insurance dosent screw me, being a student it could be a long time before Im riding again if they do

As a note the guy was really good about it, he apologised profusely and took me and my poor bike home in his van.

Thanks again for your concern

Are you sure you weren't in the bus lane? as you are legally allowed there!

[Sniper]

Bugger did, glad you arent dead

[Terminated]

Good to hear you are okay.

[BNZ]

Thanks for your concern guys, luckily i came away with only scrapes and bruises. I had a good look at the road rules and it states you may pass on the left if the vehicle you are passing:

has stopped or
is signalling right turn or
is turning right.

And hence I should be fine as all the traffic was dead stopped. Unfortunately it happen just before the bus lane as I was moving into it (coming up to the dom rd, mt albert rd intersection). If anyone disagrees with this PLEASE let me know as I would like to know what arguments might come up.

Has definately taught me a good lesson

So hopefully insurance dosent screw me, being a student it could be a long time before Im riding again if they do

As a note the guy was really good about it, he apologised profusely and took me and my poor bike home in his van.

Thanks again for your concern

Hate to kill the party mate, but if you were "undertaking" stopped traffic & not in a bus lane
(single lane?) then mr courier shuold have every right to pull over to the left. Sure he should have checked his mirrors, but I would have to say that you were in the wrong.... Just my take on it. Dont get me wrong, we have all done it (undertaken stopped traffic that is) but I wouldnt expect any sympathy from the law. If it went to court its pretty easy for the van driver to lie and say he checked and didnt see you because you were too small/cutting in and out of traffic/going too fast etc etc.

[Macktheknife]

Glad you came out of it all right mate, good luck with the repairs. Stay safe.
Mack

[JeremyW]

Hate to kill the party mate, but if you were "undertaking" stopped traffic & not in a bus lane
(single lane?) then mr courier shuold have every right to pull over to the left. Sure he should have checked his mirrors, but I would have to say that you were in the wrong.... Just my take on it. Dont get me wrong, we have all done it (undertaken stopped traffic that is) but I wouldnt expect any sympathy from the law. If it went to court its pretty easy for the van driver to lie and say he checked and didnt see you because you were too small/cutting in and out of traffic/going too fast etc etc.

But he was turning right across my path.. surely that means he is responsible for checking if the way is clear?

[Lord Derosso]

As a courier driver you would think he would have enough experience to always look regardless of perhaps being in the right. Its the old horror of opening your lefthand side door at lights and collecting push bikers. And they ,the couriers,do move very fast. Glad you are OK and it is important that you remember all the facts clearly. Were you on the bus lane or moving into it? I presume your bike is quite small. Did you have your headlight on? That use to be a factor once in insurance payouts though I think those days are long gone. Main thing is you are OK .

[JeremyW]

Hate to kill the party mate, but if you were "undertaking" stopped traffic & not in a bus lane
(single lane?) then mr courier shuold have every right to pull over to the left. Sure he should have checked his mirrors, but I would have to say that you were in the wrong.... Just my take on it. Dont get me wrong, we have all done it (undertaken stopped traffic that is) but I wouldnt expect any sympathy from the law. If it went to court its pretty easy for the van driver to lie and say he checked and didnt see you because you were too small/cutting in and out of traffic/going too fast etc etc.

But he was turning right across my path.. surely that means he is responsible for checking if the way is clear?

[Lord Derosso]

I have been rding for 35 years now and theres only one safe way in traffic at lights.... stay in the middle of the lane with at least 2 metres away from the MV in front of you. Make it 3 metres if its a bus as they can roll back some distance on any slope. I constantly see scooter riders in Wellington proforming the undertaking option and at speed. Every time I sit on the bus, (at my age the bones ache in the cold ), I cringe and just wait for that sickening thud to happen. Sounds like you may have made an error in judgement but you lived and you will learn from this. 'Ride to survive' is posted on this forum many many times and even very experienced riders are remarking on how dangerous the roads are now so be very careful.

[Lord Derosso]

Oh... you may want to read some of the threads on lanesplitting.

I didn't simply because I no longer do. Not trying to be all rightous but I value my aging body and don't like to think about having an accident through doing silly things. Its not worth it just to be king of the lane.