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    TV ad attacks 'Safe Speeding'

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/st...ectID=10397438

    "Nearly half of all speed-related crashes happen at or around the speed limit."

    Riiiight - so if travelling at the speed limit you're not safe, how they are going to make the roads safer with extra speed enforcement?

    I would have thought that trying to get people to drive to the conditions instead of the numbers on a sign would be a better way of reducing speed related accidents that happen at speeds around the limit?

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    You're preaching to the converted mate.

    If we taught people to drive/ride instead of how to follow the rules, things would be greatly improved.
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    Saw one of the adverts last night. They are also trying to brainwash the public into believing that dishing out tickets for 110kph are in the interest of safety, and that speeding tickets are given out on pieces of road where there is a significant crash history.

    The faster you go the bigger the risk.

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    The cop says that a lot of accidents are happening at near 110km/h or words to that effect. ...uh duh ...that's cos most people drive at these speeds

    If most drove at 70km/h then those speeds would be over represented in the accident figures

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdooher View Post
    The cop says that a lot of accidents are happening at near 110km/h or words to that effect. ...uh duh ...that's cos most people drive at these speeds

    If most drove at 70km/h then those speeds would be over represented in the accident figures

    so.... to take that the OTHER way (no - not THAT way Dover - put your pants back on... I meant the OTHER OTHER way)...

    If everyone drove and crashed at 150... my 130 would be safe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by clint640 View Post
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/st...ectID=10397438

    "Nearly half of all speed-related crashes happen at or around the speed limit."
    That being the case?.....then i know alot of people that will never die on the road....

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    If most accidents happen around the speed limit, then the cause is patently NOT speeding.
    Besides, the cops don't know that the accidents are happening around 110 km/h. They're guessing.

    This is how they're going to get our respect back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManDownUnder View Post
    so.... to take that the OTHER way (no - not THAT way Dover - put your pants back on... I meant the OTHER OTHER way)...

    If everyone drove and crashed at 150... my 130 would be safe?
    isn't 130 always safe

    just think... if everyone drove at 70 for 2 months when just as many people died on the roads they would have to rethink their speed kills campain...

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    And the guy gets done for speeding because that is 'oh so dangerous' but his rubbernecking at the accident scene isn't????
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    Quote Originally Posted by yungatart View Post
    And the guy gets done for speeding because that is 'oh so dangerous' but his rubbernecking at the accident scene isn't????
    Look at every ad they put out... it is rare the driver is paying attention. Yet it is speed that gets the blame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XP@ View Post
    Look at every ad they put out... it is rare the driver is paying attention. Yet it is speed that gets the blame.

    oooohhhh it is annoying! I am going to crawl back in to my hole.
    That is exactly why we need people to front up to those Safe As meetings like this one here...http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...7&postcount=24
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdooher View Post
    just think... if everyone drove at 70 for 2 months when just as many people died on the roads they would have to rethink their speed kills campain...
    Nope. If we all did that the average percentile of speed would be reduced and we would be lumbered with a lower speed limit... still heavily enforced to keep Heilen Klerk's coffers overflowing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynamytus50 View Post
    Just one thing, what do you think speed ticketing limits should be around 50km/hr zones?
    The speed at which the driving is likely to be unsafe.

    Why ticket some one driving safely at 60kph, yet let off people driving dangerously at 15kph (eg Lou's colleague)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdooher View Post
    If most drove at 70km/h then those speeds would be over represented in the accident figures
    I had a cop car one 3am morning on Desert Rd follow me for a good 20 minutes while I was crawling along at a continuous 50km/hr. And why was a I going so slow,,, well,,, had to kill the time before I arrived at the Wellington Ferry terminal

    Don't really think it's the speed that's the problem, it's people over taking others on stretches of roads that are too short. Then again, I did see three boy racer car pile end for end in the same corner,,, ,,, it was a 55km/hr corner on Lewis pass which must be take at the speed at all times. You'd think they'd have seen all the 'Truck use low gear' signs and took this warning into consideration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou Girardin View Post
    If most accidents happen around the speed limit, then the cause is patently NOT speeding.
    Besides, the cops don't know that the accidents are happening around 110 km/h. They're guessing.

    This is how they're going to get our respect back.
    You would be surprised at the number of drivers who crash and when their speed at the time is mentioned it's that famous mantra: "Oh, about 100 - 105ks, maybe a little over - wouldn't be anymore than 110 that's for sure"

    Like the standard issue drink-driver consumtion: "I can't be pissed, I've only had three stubbies/cans/bottles"

    Yeah right, like I'm going to reply:"Sorry sir, must be a faulty machine, of course you're not drunk, have a good evening" pffft!
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