Popping Wheelies on a 250cc??

[Firefight]

have any of you guys ever ridden with Andy 1 ?,
Me thinks if you had you may well belive this tale.

What say you MR ?

Firefight.

[Zed]

have any of you guys ever ridden with Andy 1 ?,
Me thinks if you had you may well belive this tale.

What say you MR ?

Firefight.

I've never riden with Andy1, but I have heard first hand stories of his riding from about 3 other guys...I was told he is a LOOSE CANON - would be entertaining to watch his mono at 180kms! Maybe he'll have to turn up to the next KB ride and prove himself? He may have to ride in his own group though.


Zed

[FROSTY:Me]

Anyone wanting to learn to mono/wheelie whatever --give Bigdog a call
he has a dvd on how to do it propperly

[Firefight]

I've never riden with Andy1, but I have heard first hand stories of his riding from about 3 other guys...I was told he is a LOOSE CANON - would be entertaining to watch his mono at 180kms! Maybe he'll have to turn up to the next KB ride and prove himself? He may have to ride in his own group though.


Zed

May be a bit diffucult at the moment hes racing in Japan, also hes not the sort of guy who gives a shit if people don,t belive him, as he said, thats not why he posted, I think very skilled rider is a better description than loose canon, but then again, what would I know.

F/F

[Motoracer]

If you think Andy1's all shit. Come ride with me on the road (that is a real challenge for anyone who wants to accpet it and I don't really care what bike you are on). I have never ever ridden anywhere close to my limits on the KB rides so what you might have seen doesn't really count.

After the ride, if you think that I am pretty fast, I'll tell you one thing. Andy1 is better than me still. Then you'll have a clue about how fast and good he is.

[Two Smoker]

If you think Andy1's all shit. Come ride with me on the road (that is a real challenge for anyone who wants to accpet it and I don't really care what bike you are on). I have never ever ridden anywhere close to my limits on the KB rides so what you might have seen doesn't really count.

After the ride, if you think that I am pretty fast, I'll tell you one thing. Andy1 is better than me still. Then you'll have a clue about how fast and good he is.

LOL, thats pretty damn fast yep i agree dont give people shit unless you have ridden with them etc...... like its a bit stupid to tell me to stick with my RG150 because i can get more "speed" in the twisties..... But then you wouldnt know if i could get more speed in the twisties unless you had ridden with me.....

Re the Wheelies...... I wheelie my RG150 and CT110...... What you need to do is rev the shit out of it (like JR said) load up the front forks while your doing about 5 kmh...... then pop the clutch, whilst heaving on the bars and shifting your weight onto the back of the seat......

That should have you wheel coming up a fair way, then you need to work on the balance point and holding it there..... I still need to work on the holding part

[Posh Tourer :P]

Perhaps the bit you arent doing sndr is the weight shift. I've tried to stoppie on the ZXR400 and it didnt work, I think it just required a weight shift. Only the more powerful bikes wheelie without weight shift....

[jrandom]

I know when I used to dump the clutch on my old evo it did'nt take long for the clutch to wear out...what about bikes?

Your steering head bearings and fork seals will probably go before the clutch does.

Hell, even if it does fry up and blow out, there should always be plenty of written-off CBR250s at the breakers to snarf perfectly good transmission parts off.

I'm not aware of anyone on the forum who's buggered a clutch on a road bike, from wheelieing or anything else. Yoohoo... guys...?

[riffer]

I'm not aware of anyone on the forum who's buggered a clutch on a road bike, from wheelieing or anything else. Yoohoo... guys...?

No-one here on this forum, but plenty on the exup brotherhood who have wasted FZR clutches...

[jrandom]

Only the more powerful bikes wheelie without weight shift....

Nah, dunn think thass right. My FXR comes up even when I'm leaning over the bars a bit.

But yeah, putting the weight as far back as possible will make a difference.

From personal experience I'm betting that sndrmn's problem is a too-timid initial application, and then not heaving back and keeping the throttle pinned after he pops the clutch. He's probably also leaning forward instinctively as it comes up.

Er.

Now, I could, at this point, admit that the first time I wheelied the FXR properly was under the inhibition-removing effect of a couple of beers. But fortunately I'm a very responsible person and that would be a complete and utter outright lie (yesh orficer, no, really!)

I would do nothing other than advise any would-be stunters to be careful to only practise when in a sober and careful frame of mind. Ahem. Yes. That's the one. Removing nervousness with alcohol before attempting wheelies could be extremely Hazardous To Your Health and I DEFINITELY don't think that sndrmn should try it at all.

[k14]

Just out of curosity how much does the FXR weigh?? The CBR weighs in at around 170 wet so I am assuming the FXR would have a decent weight advantage. I haven't heard of any clutches being burnt out on CBR's and I frequent the CBR250 forums where there are some crazy guys that do it all the time.

I have got a few vids of CBR's doing some decent wheelies. Not sure how much damage it does to the forks/steering head etc, it is probably just the same as doing wheelies to any other bigger (or smaller) bike. Although the CBR doesn't have too much power so once you start to go down it probably is hard to use the throttle to gently lower it down, but what do I know about it. I have been trying to pluck up the courage to attempt one on my beast, but alas I haven't. Only tried a stoppie a few times. Might wait for the warmer months.

[Two Smoker]

Man stoppies must be easy as on that thing (due to having 2 rotors lol) Yeo the fork seals and steerubg head bearings will be stuffed before your clutch, and the only reason the seals will go is from harsh landings....... When you come of the power it isnt that harder drop......

[Motoracer]

P.S. I forgot to say this but I was on that ride with Andy1 when he first pulled the front wheel up so you can have my word that it is true.

It was on thoes nice big crests before Miranda when you are going from Auckland towards Kopu. If you haven't been there, you should try it. All the corners are pretty fast just before that bit and there is a nice long straight to buildup some more speed (crucial for smaller bikes). Just hold your speed as you go over 3 massive crests (almost hills) with a nice steep drop. The feeling you get through the different Gs is just great! For the wheelies over them (I don't do them myself), you just need to have big balls and then pull hard on the handle bars. Don't forget to land the front wheel straight BTW!!

And thats how you wheelie a 4 stroke 250 at 180kmph.

[phase]

That's ridiculous. Not saying that it's not true, but honestly, that's right outta the blue.

This thread should be framed. This is possibly the only instance of an internet tale actually turning out to be true. Apologies to any offence andy, but I say again - outta the blue.

In fact, I'm still in disbelief. MR, you gotta take me out for a ride and set me straight!

[Antallica]

Just out of curosity how much does the FXR weigh?? The CBR weighs in at around 170 wet so I am assuming the FXR would have a decent weight advantage. I haven't heard of any clutches being burnt out on CBR's and I frequent the CBR250 forums where there are some crazy guys that do it all the time.

I have got a few vids of CBR's doing some decent wheelies. Not sure how much damage it does to the forks/steering head etc, it is probably just the same as doing wheelies to any other bigger (or smaller) bike. Although the CBR doesn't have too much power so once you start to go down it probably is hard to use the throttle to gently lower it down, but what do I know about it. I have been trying to pluck up the courage to attempt one on my beast, but alas I haven't. Only tried a stoppie a few times. Might wait for the warmer months.

It weighs 118kg dry mate.