Popping Wheelies on a 250cc??

[vifferman]

Perhaps the bit you arent doing sndr is the weight shift. I've tried to stoppie on the ZXR400 and it didnt work, I think it just required a weight shift. Only the more powerful bikes wheelie without weight shift....

Way back (when I were but a lad), I used to wheelie my CB175, and it was (a) gutless, and (b) heavyish. None of this "rev the snot outta it, an' pop the clutch" nonsense; I used to just load the forks, then pull back HARD on the bars and open the throttle at the same time. I guess that counts as weight shift. And if you stand up, it helps. The CB175 also did good donuts on concrete, gravel, grass, dirt, and spent quite a bit of time being treated like a dirtbike. Finally T-boned a car on it it when...ahem...practising wheelies.

Other bikes I've had were easier to wheelie, but I'd imagine the CBR250 is a little bit like my VFR, with the weight quite forward, and it being a bit porky for its power. On the VFR, it was just a matter of dipping the clutch a bit while going slow, and a bit of a bump helped too. But it was a bit portly, and I never managed to stoppie the thing or do a really decent wheelie, even after I lowered the gearing a tad.
On the VTR, it will wheelie off the throttle, especially as it hits about 3k rpm in first, or if I give it a big handful, AND/OR I shift my butt back on the seat. If I'm hard on the throttle and hit a bump, or go up an incline, it comes up without a tug on the bars in first and second. I can't wheelie it off the clutch, because I've got one of the VTRs that has a crap clutch, and it squeals like a stuck pig (weird, seeing it's a wet clutch) if it's fed too much power, then grabs. Needs Barnett springs...

I know guys that can wheelie anything, so it must come down to mostly technique. But I'm lazy, and I'd rather the front comes up easily by itself when I turn the go handle to LOUD.

[Firefight]

That's ridiculous. Not saying that it's not true, but honestly, that's right outta the blue.

This thread should be framed. This is possibly the only instance of an internet tale actually turning out to be true. Apologies to any offence andy, but I say again - outta the blue.

In fact, I'm still in disbelief. MR, you gotta take me out for a ride and set me straight!

Maybe you should work you way up to a ride with MR, he very fast !,

I am an average rider, and I can't catch him, maybe my balls are to small, who knows, what do you consider fast?, different people have different
thoughts on what fast is. .Feel free to pm me and we can discuss speeds that you may be reqiured to achive to ride with him, in fact I am rideing tomorow if you wish to join up for a ride.

Firefight
F/F

[wkid_one]

P.S. I forgot to say this but I was on that ride with Andy1 when he first pulled the front wheel up so you can have my word that it is true.

Why doesn't that surprise me at all

[Two Smoker]

Keeping up with MR, definately need a 600........

[Antallica]

Keeping up with MR, definately need a 600........

I can vouch for that, and that's just from being with him once following behind on a motorway onramp!

We saw him go around the onramp, never to be seen again

[andy1]

i didnt sayu had to believe me?! but i wasnt expecting to get this much shit!!!

Celticno6 man whatz up ur ass?? and u k14??

i was just answering sndrmn question if ANYONE has wheelied a 250 i just said i had, i didnt say go out and do it, i just said i can do it! thats all.
im sorry if i affended anyone, i really am! but some of u next to check yourself before u start making remarks!

i wish i could ride with more of ya kiwibikers its really fun riding with some of u guys!! but im alittle busy at the moment hopefully one day ill be back to NZ and ill come along for another kiwibiker blast!

Celticno6 why would u want to say a thing like that?! i really dont understand how old are u 8-9??? maybe u need to grow up alittle! dont ya think!
seeu.

[Zed]

If you think Andy1's all shit.

You can't blame people for doubting - that's quite a feat to achieve on a 250cc.

Come ride with me on the road (that is a real challenge for anyone who wants to accpet it and I don't really care what bike you are on). I have never ever ridden anywhere close to my limits on the KB rides so what you might have seen doesn't really count.

But who does ride close to their limits on KB rides - the ones who bin it?

You have nothing to prove about your abilitites man, let your track record speak for itself...but be careful on those KB road rides because the last thing we need around here is a fatality!

After the ride, if you think that I am pretty fast, I'll tell you one thing. Andy1 is better than me still. Then you'll have a clue about how fast and good he is.

MR, there are many fast riders out there, but they come and they go - how long are you going the last?
Also, I think that "dangerous fast" is not good riding. Once you can master holding back from the temptation of passing cars on blind corners, then you are becoming a good rider.


Zed

[andy1]

oh i nearly forgot k14 my cbr was completely standard and i was pulling 195km!!! thats noooo shit!! i was very surpised myself. i had a 954 and an r1 next to me saying 195km! maybe k14 ur little cbr got too much weight on the seat?!

[Nouseforaname]

How do you pull 195kph on a bike that cuts out at 180Kph? im not very smart but i can smell poo gas from here.

[Motoracer]

I didn't intend to prove my abilities. I just wanted to show where Andy1 stood.

I would like to think that I am pretty careful when riding with KBs. Only when I go out with a select few, I open it up.

I definetly never mentioned that I am good (I am not asking people to tell me that I am by the statement either).

I don't ride by the book. There are a few things that I do which may look dodgy to some who don't ride the way we do frequently but belive me. Unless I am hopelessly delusional, I truelly belive that when riding on the road, I am leaving enough room for error for most things. I'd hate myself if I was putting blind faith on something like overtaking while going around a blind corner, risking others lives. I do make mistakes sometimes though, I can't say much about that other than, I always try to improve.

However thank you very much for your concern Zed.

[andy1]

POO GAS what the fuck is that????
maybe i was hoping that someone could tell me how?! im not stupid i know that a 250 cuts out at 180km but for some reason it reachs 195km.

[Nouseforaname]

Poo Gas - Vulgar Slang intr.v. the foul stench of shit coming from one's mouth - generally my own, An often audible discharge of intestinal gas

[Two Smoker]

Yep 195kmh is very probable if the limiter has been taken off.......

[k14]

oh i nearly forgot k14 my cbr was completely standard and i was pulling 195km!!! thats noooo shit!! i was very surpised myself. i had a 954 and an r1 next to me saying 195km! maybe k14 ur little cbr got too much weight on the seat?!

I doubt 70kgs is too much weight.

Go and have a look on the CBR 250 forums: http://www.cr-x.org/cbr250/forum/default.asp

There are heaps of threads on there that say it is restricted to 180kph. It isn't that hard to make it go faster though. If the gearing was changed then that would make it go faster, cause the speedo is run off the front sprocket (thats if you had an RR) and the limiter also runs off the speedo. So that could be quite easily.

Forgive me doubting you doing a 180kph wheelie, it does sound very unbelievable but you do have a witness. I don't think I will be trying it myself to prove you wrong, lol.

[Sensei]

Well thats some great bullshit 180 klm on a CBR250 doing a wheelie ?? . Have worked on a mate's one CBR250RR . Wouldn't peel the skin of a rice fucken pudding !! Use to do 120-140 klm wheelie's on my old YZ490 with road gearing up a country road here . But 180klm on a 250cc road bike please !!Hope you didn't end your dream with a wet bed Sensei