Traffic lights in bus lanes

[Pogo2]

Over the last few days on my commute to work I have seen scooters using the bus lanes and then proceeding through the red lights at intersections using the white "B" light (reserved for buses I think). Is this legal - without researching it it sounds a bit dodgy? Mostly seen in the Gt North Rd and K Rd area.

Whats the go with that!

[Karma]

Illegal.

B light refers to buses only... we can use the lanes but not the signals.

[Filterer]

Illegal.

B light refers to buses only... we can use the lanes but not the signals.

So you get to the front of the bus lane. A 20+ tonne vehicle pulls up behind you wanting to go through the B light and you hold it up?

I don't think the GN would stop a bus.

So practically it seems a little strange

[sunhuntin]

So you get to the front of the bus lane. A 20+ tonne vehicle pulls up behind you wanting to go through the B light and you hold it up?

I don't think the GN would stop a bus.

So practically it seems a little strange

in that case id simply try and remerge back into traffic before the lights. we dont have bus lanes here, so doesnt matter.

[Nicksta]

what Weasel said....
can use bus lanes apart from on the m/ways......
i just merge at the front of the que at the lights..... B is for bus... not bike!!

[jtzzr]

what Weasel said....
can use bus lanes apart from on the m/ways......
i just merge at the front of the que at the lights..... B is for bus... not bike!!

OOps Are you sure it does`nt mean blast? For safety reasons of course: Just wondering

[Calo]

I use bus lanes all the time and I've yet to have a bus behind me on a 'B' light so I wait for the green. I'm just lucky I guess.

[Lord Derosso]

No. I have come to the conclusion that scooter riders are a law unto themselves and can do what they want. Observations from my daily commute through Wellington city in heavy traffic and very noticeable patterns of great desires to be wiped out at all costs by said scooter riders. As I have posted before... you hear them coming, you know what they are going to try to attempt and then you wait for the impact. I would be curious to know how many scooter riders actually have a bike licence or just use their car licences. Isn't it 50ccs ?? My reasoning is that you have to EARN a bike licence through showing skill and then a period to allow you to gain road experience. Some of the local scooter riders are giving all bike riders a hard name. As for the bus lanes... the further away I am from our local buses the longer I am going to be around to ride.

[Lord Derosso]

As for earning your bike licence. In case any scooter riding member thinks this is no big deal, look at the newbies thread and the number of members posting their sheer joy in achieving this goel. In saying that, I have nothing against scooter riders but there are large numbers on the road now and the odd idiot gives everyone a bad image which reflects on all bike riders. Something that tends to piss a lot of members off in postings.

[Karma]

Lets put it this way... I've yet to see someone on a 250 bike mount the pavement and cut through pedestrians for 30 metres to get around a corner when a red light is showing... something I've seen scooters do many many times.

[sAsLEX]

Illegal.

B light refers to buses only... we can use the lanes but not the signals.

That used to be the case when BUS lanes where controlled by local councils as the lanes where under their jurisdiction , yet the lights where under transits.

With transits new law allowing bike to use all bus lanes unless specifically excluded surely this includes the signals associated with those lanes!

[Karma]

Nope.

http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/roa...sections6.html

[curious george]

Haha!!! I can on my bicycle! So long suckers!!!

[sAsLEX]

Who has priority – cyclists or buses?
A bus lane is treated as a shared facility, which means no-one has priority – but the law says that neither should impede the other unnecessarily.

Which means one should not impede the bus by waiting at the B light....kinda

bus lane means a lane reserved by a marking or sign installed
at the start of the lane and at each point at which the lane
resumes after an intersection for the use of—
(a) buses; and
(b) cycles and motorcycles (unless either or both are specifically
excluded by the sign)



AND
3.6 Traffic signals in form of T or B
(1) While a white T or a white B signal is displayed, a driver of a
light rail vehicle (in the case of a white T) or a bus (in the case
of a white B) facing the traffic signal may—
(a) travel straight ahead or turn right or turn left; or
(b) turn right or turn left even though a traffic signal is
displaying a red signal in the form of a disc.

So yet again LTSA or whatever they have called have released a LAW that they hoped was based on some common sense yet they did not apply any first!

So a long bus lane that traverses multiple sets of lights is actually multiple small bus lanes. And the lane does not extend through the intersection but stops and starts either side.

So lawfully one has to wait for a green disc before crossing the intersection from the end of your bus lane to the start of the next, all the while holding up the bus wanting to go on the white B.

But common sense would have one follow the bus lane through the intersection and go on the B light.

But common sense is removed when you get in any governmental position.

[Flatcap]

No. I have come to the conclusion that scooter riders are a law unto themselves and can do what they want. Observations from my daily commute through Wellington city in heavy traffic and very noticeable patterns of great desires to be wiped out at all costs by said scooter riders. As I have posted before... you hear them coming, you know what they are going to try to attempt and then you wait for the impact. I would be curious to know how many scooter riders actually have a bike licence or just use their car licences. Isn't it 50ccs ?? My reasoning is that you have to EARN a bike licence through showing skill and then a period to allow you to gain road experience. Some of the local scooter riders are giving all bike riders a hard name. As for the bus lanes... the further away I am from our local buses the longer I am going to be around to ride.

The antics of some plastic fantastic 50cc moped riders really piss me off as well - it will be those with no intention of getting a bike license.

Having said that - I have seen plenty of antics on large motorcycles...