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    Farewell o ye two strokes!

    I shall have to buy one before emisions nazis outlaw them

    Nothing like overtaking a four banger on a glorified lawnmower engine and covering them in a haze of blue smoke

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    I see even the CR85R is going and a CRF150 is replacing it.
    http://www.racerxill.com/articles/de...a-crf150r.aspx

    My first bike was a 1980 CR-80R. The amount of times it spat my puny 12 year old body off as it hit the powerband was endless !!!
    I loved it !!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dave View Post
    Fair call - but I have ridden all the Mach series Kwakas and a waterbottle. Smelly, smokey, narrow......
    Really...Remind me what the fundamental difference is in port layout and oil feed between a 1972/73 Kawasaki H2/H2A and a 1974/75 H2B/H2C ?
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    Honda never liked two strokes.When i started riding Honda had no two stroke roadbike in their range and Suzuki made no four strokes (The first being the GS750)

    Fwiw..... The two 1975 Kawasaki H2C's in the pic were valued around $58000 some years back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nudemetalz View Post
    I see even the CR85R is going and a CRF150 is replacing it.
    http://www.racerxill.com/articles/de...a-crf150r.aspx

    My first bike was a 1980 CR-80R. The amount of times it spat my puny 12 year old body off as it hit the powerband was endless !!!
    I loved it !!
    Know what you mean....imagine the damage I did to my equally puny 14 yr old body when i convinced my parents to let me trade in my RM125B for an RM400c!
    Still got the scars from it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Str8 Jacket View Post
    Thats pretty sad news. Maybe I will hang on to my KR now....

    You could "mount" it, like as a showcase for the lounge.

    I never had a hard out 2 stroke like a CR because back when I started we rode bikes like A100, TS185 etc and in their day they had quite torquey engines without narrow power bands because they didn't have the top end of the race bikes nor the top end of the 4 strokes for that matter so at the end of '73 I switched to 4 strokes and have never owned a 2 stroke since.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TLDV8 View Post
    Really...Remind me what the fundamental difference is in port layout and oil feed between a 1972/73 Kawasaki H2/H2A and a 1974/75 H2B/H2C ?
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    Honda never liked two strokes.When i started riding Honda had no two stroke roadbike in their range and Suzuki made no four strokes (The first being the GS750)

    Fwiw..... The two 1975 Kawasaki H2C's in the pic were valued around $58000 some years back.
    As in 350cc, 500cc and 750cc 'swot I meant.
    '59 Bonnes pull big money too and they weren't that flash either.

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    Honda never liked the smelly things anyway. To be honest I'm suprised it's taken them this long to phase them out.

    Still I'll miss them in a misty eyed, nostalgic, sort of way. I'm sure that I remember my two stroke days (TS's, GT's, RD's, and one scary session on an H2) with a lot more affection than I had at the time. Still there is nothing like a two stroke to improve your corner speed (provided it wasn't that afore mentioned H2).

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    Quote Originally Posted by merv View Post
    You could "mount" it, like as a showcase for the lounge.
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    Two smokers definetely had there place but technology moves on.
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    I'm sure Mr Honda liked them in their heyday in the 80's and 90's.....NSR250R champ for about 5 years......Gardner and Doohan on the 500's, then Rossi.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dave View Post
    all squeezed into a narrow little peaky power band -
    No power band on the DT230,it comes on hard off idle and all the way till it signs off somewhere...no tacho,no rev limiter.If you do bog it out in too high a gear,just a fan of the clutch gets it flying again.

    Honda fought against 2 strokes for many years,but finally had to make them to be competitive.I'm not surprised they are the first to officially drop them.

    I blame it all on the Kalifornian's - that one small state in one country can dictate what we ride and drive,and even how we mow our lawn.Land of the Free my arse!

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    Glad I snapped up my CRM when I had a chance. Now the only way they'll get it is to pry it from my cold dead hands.

    Would love to have a road-breed two stroke in the gargre to keep the crm company. Oh, and one of the larger two stroke machines too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Motu View Post
    Kalifornian's - that one small state in one country can dictate what we ride and drive,and even how we mow our lawn.Land of the Free my arse!
    I think I read somewhere (the interbweb, probably, so it MUST be true) that California is the worlds fourth largest economy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VasalineWarrior View Post
    Nothing like overtaking a four banger on a glorified lawnmower engine and covering them in a haze of blue smoke
    Your CBR400 did that too.

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    Well, this isn't really news. But still, in 10/15 years, they will be sooo rare. It will be sad. I learnt to ride on a smelly Suzuki TS185ER.

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