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    Jihad!!!

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    Pope Benedict XVI came under a hail of criticism from the Islamic world Friday for comments he made earlier in the week regarding the Prophet Mohammed and the Muslim faith, in some cities provoking street protests.
    A growing chorus of Muslim leaders have called on the pope to apologize for the remarks he made in a speech in Germany on Tuesday when he used the terms "jihad" and "holy war."
    Friday, Muslim protesters shouted slogans against the pontiff at a rally in Jammu, India.
    A Vatican statement said Benedict was not trying offend Muslims with his remarks.
    "It was certainly not the intention of the Holy Father to ... offend the sensibilities of Muslim faithful," said Federico Lombardi, the Vatican press officer.
    In response to the pope's speech, Pakistan's National Assembly -- parliament's lower house -- unanimously passed a resolution on Friday condemning his remarks.
    "It was underlined that at a time when there was an acute need for promoting inter-faith harmony such remarks, regardless of the context, were very unfortunate," said a statement from Pakistan's Foreign Affairs Ministry.
    In Cairo Friday, about 100 demonstrators gathered in an anti-Vatican protest outside the capital's al-Azhar mosque.
    Meanwhile, a youth center run by the Greek Orthodox church in the Gaza Strip was slightly damaged by a small explosion on Friday, witnesses told Reuters.
    It was unclear if the blast was connected to the pope's comments.
    During his address at the University of Regensburg on Tuesday, Benedict quoted 14th-century Byzantine emperor Manuel II Paleologus.
    "God," the emperor, as the pope quoted, said, "is not pleased by blood -- and not acting reasonably is contrary to God's nature."
    A transcript of the pope's remarks obtained by The Associated Press television network reads: "In the seventh (sura, or chapter of the Quran), the emperor comes to speak about jihad, holy war.
    "The emperor certainly knew that Sura 2, 256, reads: 'No force in matters of faith'. It is one of the early suras, from a time -- as experts say -- in which Mohammed himself was still powerless and threatened.
    "However, the emperor of course also knew the requirements about the holy war that were later formulated in the Quran. Without going into details like the handling of the owners of the scriptures, or non-believers, he (the emperor) turned to his interlocutors -- in a surprisingly brusque way -- with the central question after the relationship between religion and violence.
    "He said, I quote, 'Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.'"
    The Organization of the Islamic Conference, in a statement released Thursday, said it "regrets the quotations cited by the pope on the Life of the Honorable Prophet Mohammed, and what he referred to as 'spreading' Islam 'by the sword.'"
    "The attribution of the spread of Islam around the world to the shedding of blood and violence, which is 'incompatible with the nature of God' is a complete distortion of the facts, which shows deep ignorance of Islam and Islamic history."
    Muslim Brotherhood Chairman Mohammed Mahdi Akef also expressed anger over the pope's academic speech.
    "The pope's statements come to add fuel to fire and trigger anger within the Muslim world and show that the West with its politicians and clerics are hostile to Islam."
    Condemnation also came from Turkey where Benedict is scheduled to visit in November.
    "His words are extremely regrettable, worrying and unfortunate in terms of the Christian world and common peace of humanity," the Anatolian state news agency quoted Ali Bardakoglu, the head of Ankara's Directorate General for Religious Affairs, as saying.
    "I do not see any use in somebody visiting the Islamic world who thinks in this way about the holy prophet of Islam."
    In Syria, the grand mufti, the country's top Sunni Muslim religious authority, sent a letter to the pope saying he feared the pontiff's comments on Islam would worsen interfaith relations
    In Gaza City, Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail Haniya issued a condemnation, saying Benedict's remarks "are not true and defamed the essence of this holy religion and it defamed the history of the Islam."

    Later, thousands of Palestinians marched in Gaza, demanding an apology.
    In Lebanon, the country's most senior Shiite Muslim cleric demanded the pope personally apologize for insulting Islam.
    "We do not accept the apology through Vatican channels ... and ask him (Benedict) to offer a personal apology -- not through his officials -- to Muslims for this false reading (of Islam)," Grand Ayatollah Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah told worshippers.
    now call me silly.. but i think we have just seen the first shot fired in a REAL holy war .. the rags are already pitching a fit and burning the Pope in effigy and blowing up catholic church youth centers ..

    how long before a 747 meets the Vatican walls? all the fancy bodyguards and Pope-Mobiles wont stop a jumbo jet or Anti-Tank rocket..

    now if the Pope gets targeted.. or St. Peters Square gets hit with Suicide bombers during one of the huge public masses ..how leinient do you think the Catholic Church will be?? will they 'turn the other cheek'? or will they unleash 2000 years of preparation on the Islamic world? they did it 1000 years ago in a little swatch of history called the "Crusades"

    ( dont think for a second that the Catholic Church, the planets biggest corperation, does not have the ways or means to unleash the mother of all Holy Wars.. the UN/ NATO would have a real hard time containing them..)


    could this be the beginning of the end to Organized Religion?
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    Pope Benedict was a very silly boy.

    Fortunately the Holy See doesn't have armed forces.
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    Why there will never be peace in the middle east...

    I almost fell off the couch with laughter when watching the TV News last night. As many will have seen, some Muslims have been offended by the Pope's remarks about Islam, where he quoted a former Pope as basically saying it is evil to convert people by the sword - ie he was speaking out against violence.

    Now what was hilarious wasn't even the irony that violent protests and death threats are the response to a speech against violence. No it was the banners and chants.

    You see TV news reported that thousands filed into the straeets to chant "Death to Israel, Death to the USA".

    Yes that is right. The Pope offends Muslims, and the response is "Death to Israel"!!! I know they have these wacky conspiracy theories that the Jews control most things, but do they really think the Jews control the Roman Catholic Church???

    And death to the USA?? I could understand Death to Italy or even Death to Germany, but Death to the USA because of what a German Pope says?

    After spending several minutes laughing at the TV screen, I finally realised there will never ever be peace in the Middle East. "Death to Israel" is just the knee-jerk chant and solution to every problem.

    Fuckin dumbass ragheads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
    Pope Benedict was a very silly boy.

    Fortunately the Holy See doesn't have armed forces.
    yea .. they didnt have them in the 11th century either ...
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    Large island, middle of vast ocean, right over on the bottom right of the map where nobody notices.

    WHEW!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dave View Post
    Large island, middle of vast ocean, right over on the bottom right of the map where nobody notices.

    WHEW!
    no Dave .. they notice ..

    they send thier families here for just that very reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
    Pope Benedict was a very silly boy.

    Fortunately the Holy See doesn't have armed forces.
    What about those guards in the cute clown suits with the puffy pants and the..............oh, I see what you mean.

    I read today that papal watchers have been waiting for this guy to show his teeth, apparently he was J.P.'s bovver boy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
    Fortunately the Holy See doesn't have armed forces.
    He's got some Swiss cheese with sharp spikes though.

    Oooh - those trousers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SARGE View Post
    yea .. they didnt have them in the 11th century either ...
    But they were able to promise all sorts of cool stuff to anyone that wanted to fight for them in those days, like a guaranteed place in heaven and all the plunder they could carry.

    Maybe if they promised holy condoms?
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    Good on the Muslims, I say. It can be tricky business, this suicide bombing, but at least they're trying - they've got it half right. Hopefully one day they'll learn how to blow themselves up without harming anyone sane and we'll all be happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idb View Post
    What about those guards in the cute clown suits with the puffy pants and the..............oh, I see what you mean.
    THESE guys??


    even i would think twice about screwing with one..
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    Quote Originally Posted by SARGE View Post
    THESE guys??


    even i would think twice about screwing with one..
    Yeah, you would have to be seriously tough to walk around like that outside the privacy of your own home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn View Post

    Now what was hilarious wasn't even the irony that violent protests and death threats are the response to a speech against violence. No it was the banners and chants.

    You see TV news reported that thousands filed into the straeets to chant "Death to Israel, Death to the USA".

    Yes that is right. The Pope offends Muslims, and the response is "Death to Israel"!!! I know they have these wacky conspiracy theories that the Jews control most things, but do they really think the Jews control the Roman Catholic Church???

    And death to the USA?? I could understand Death to Italy or even Death to Germany, but Death to the USA because of what a German Pope says?

    After spending several minutes laughing at the TV screen, I finally realised there will never ever be peace in the Middle East. "Death to Israel" is just the knee-jerk chant and solution to every problem.

    Fuckin dumbass ragheads.
    Yeah. Sort of like when Osama bin Laden (a Saudi extremist group) blows up a lot of Yanks and the Yanks all start chanting "Death to the Saddam Hussein (President of Iraq)" and beating up on local Pakistanis and Turks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    Yeah. Sort of like when Osama bin Laden (a Saudi extremist group) blows up a lot of Yanks and the Yanks all start chanting "Death to the Saddam Hussein (President of Iraq)" and beating up on local Pakistanis and Turks


    i never beat up on a Paki or Turk that didnt personally deserve it ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by idb View Post
    Yeah, you would have to be seriously tough to walk around like that outside the privacy of your own home.
    WORD!!!


    10 whatever ...
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