Exceeding the recommended corner speed...

**FzerozeroT** · 26th June 2004, 07:55

If i come up to a corner of 55 or below then I'll check for traffic behind, slow down to 55 and criuse around checking out the road surface... then double back and thrash it thru

**SPman** · 26th June 2004, 08:38

Originally Posted by Skyryder

The speed sighns on corners indicate the 'maximum' speed that the corner can be negotiated under 'normal' driving conditions
Skyryder

By an average driver in a 1954 Austin A40!

**wkid_one** · 26th June 2004, 09:17

Originally Posted by Skyryder

The speed sighns on corners indicate the 'maximum' speed that the corner can be negotiated under 'normal' driving conditions. I use the word normal as in wet and not 'extreem' as in ice or snow.

Skyryder

No they aren't - they are designed for the lowest common denominator on the road - eg Trucks and Buses as well. Ie - the speed that ANY VEHICLE on the road can pass safely through the corner at.

**Motu** · 26th June 2004, 11:24

Originally Posted by SPman

By an average driver in a 1954 Austin A40!

Ah,the Sommersalt,but I always prefered the Devil.

**scumdog** · 26th June 2004, 11:33

Originally Posted by marty

i always thought those corner speeds were in MPH

Me too, they are just a general indication that the road ain't staraight no more.

Normally good for mph as you say Marty or for metricheads, good for double the indicated speed on a dry road.

WTF why do they put "95"{ signs out there??? like you couldn't take it at 110 or...

**Mongoose** · 26th June 2004, 12:31

Originally Posted by Gixxer 4 ever

Yep I think the same however when up the east coast of the North Island I found corners posted at 15 km/h and you could not double them and add some on. the only place I have found that fits in to this category.

Bottom right hand corner of the SI is much the same, wnat speed they post they mean just that and no more!!

**KATWYN** · 26th June 2004, 13:17

Originally Posted by Kickaha

I did the Inland road about 5 weeks ago from the Kaikoura end and there was a lot of loose gravel,the guy I was riding with had a minor front end loose and we were taking it fairly easy.

If that is that road that cuts across (kinda south from Hamner springs and across a bit-HWY 70? to Kaikoura) thats really hilly and windy with marbles on every corner I'm not surprised. Of our South Island trip we reakoned that road was the road from hell and found out later its been notorious for lots of accidents.

**wkid_one** · 26th June 2004, 15:10

Who has had this happen.

Scenario One
Blatting along on an unknown or infrequented road. COme to a corner posted 50kph. So you slow down, shit - coulda done it at 100 you think as you dawdle around. 2 corners later and you hit another 50kph. You don't slow down as much, but still coulda gone round it at 110kph.

Come to the third 50kph corner some 2 mins later...think fuck this, I'm gonna keep her throat open - only to find the fucker should been sign posted at 35kph!!

Scenario Two
You turn off a main away to a by road. Blatting along this new road, Getting used to it. First couple a corners come up sign posted as 45kph, 50kph, 70kph, etc and you are getting in to it. You increase your speed some. Go around that sign posted 45kph corner with your knee down - LOVING THIS.

You come whipping up on the next corner, no sign - WICKED. Hammer in to it to find it is a decreasing radius off camber blind apex downhill corner. You think that corner should just have one sign on it - ONE WITH A BIG BLACK PUCKERED ARSEHOLE ON A YELLOW BACKGROUND - then you remember - oh yeah - that's right - once you are 2km of the main road - they stop sign posting the corners.

I wouldn't mind the posted signs so much if they were fucken consistent.

**Skyryder** · 26th June 2004, 16:05

Originally Posted by wkid_one

No they aren't - they are designed for the lowest common denominator on the road - eg Trucks and Buses as well. Ie - the speed that ANY VEHICLE on the road can pass safely through the corner at.

Just not sure that busses and trucks are the lowest common denominator on the roads but will leave that one alone. I knew I should have put the word safely in my post but thought the obvious did not need to be mentioned. A few years back I did a Defensive Driving course and one of the participents raised this very question. She, if my memory serves me correctly, thought that they were speed limits for the corner. The course was run by the AA and they had a retired Traffic Cop taking it. To her question he replied that the speed sighn is for normal road conditions. Hence why I excluded extreem. Take some of these corners at the indicated speed in ice snow or fog..............sure you get my drift if you excuse the pun.

Skyryder

**scumdog** · 26th June 2004, 16:10

Originally Posted by KATWYN

If that is that road that cuts across (kinda south from Hamner springs and across a bit-HWY 70? to Kaikoura) thats really hilly and windy with marbles on every corner I'm not surprised. Of our South Island trip we reakoned that road was the road from hell and found out later its been notorious for lots of accidents.

Went over that road a couple of years ago about this time of year, hell I didn't know I could slide crabwise down the road for so far without arseing off into the trees - mind you my steering wheel was spinning faster than my mags trying to keep straight. (and my arse was sucking the buttons off the seat in fright), a thoroughly nasty bit of road in the winter, beware!!

**Skyryder** · 26th June 2004, 16:11

Originally Posted by KATWYN

If that is that road that cuts across (kinda south from Hamner springs and across a bit-HWY 70? to Kaikoura) thats really hilly and windy with marbles on every corner I'm not surprised. Of our South Island trip we reakoned that road was the road from hell and found out later its been notorious for lots of accidents.

Yes I have done this road a few times myself and it can be a bit of trap. It's one of the reasons I come into corners relatively slow. You can make the adjustments if neccessary, under control, then power out when you know it is safe to do so. Still it is a nice road even in leisure.

Skyryder

**marty** · 26th June 2004, 18:06

Originally Posted by scumdog

(and my arse was sucking the buttons off the seat in fright), !

buttons? what were you driving, a pillow?

**scumdog** · 26th June 2004, 19:29

Nope, big-block powered F100 (pick-up truck), lotsa weight at the pointy end and superfat tyres at the arse - not the best for transversing stretches of icy road with ease!!

Got rid of the buttons (one less after that trip!)

LB · 27th June 2004, 06:42

I tend to think more of the gear I'm in than the speed when I come up to a posted speed corner. I ride the Paraparas (Wanganui-National Park : 52kms of winding road!!) a lot and am normally in 2nd for a 35km cnr, 3rd for a 45km corner. Obviously that's what suits my bike and gearing, not all bikes.

I agree that some speed signs are inconsistent. I always treat a new/unridden road with respect.

Sounds like the gravel had much to do with this poor chap's demise too. Only done that road once, a few years ago, just a day or two after they had finished sealing it (it had been gravel previously) - the trucks and graders/rollers etc were still all parked on the side of the road. There was pea gravel everywhere, you had to ride really slowly. I didn't really enjoy it that much, though without the gravel it would have been a great road.

Must do it again sometime soon (with due caution)