Corners - pretty simple when you think about it

[Devil]

Erm, I think physics covers this. If you go into neutral (or whip in the clutch), as you lose revs your centrifugal force disappears.
....................
And to think my physics teacher told me I'd struggle in the exam (got a grade 2, so yah boo sucks to him!).

*cough* Uhm, I know what your physics teacher was talking about
Physics and "centrifugal" do not go in the same sentence together.


Try Centripetal.

[Jackrat]

Ain't that centrifugal force takes over and the bike stands up.
If you lost centrifugal you would fall over.

[Bob]

*cough* Uhm, I know what your physics teacher was talking about
Physics and "centrifugal" do not go in the same sentence together.


Try Centripetal.

Well there you go! I knew it was A force! Out of curiosity, I just looked up centripetal force... and found this

[Devil]

Well there you go! I knew it was A force! Out of curiosity, I just looked up centripetal force... and found this

Thats pretty cool to know. Good to see it in practice (instead of talking about things traveling in circles accelerating into themselves heh.)

[Bob]

I've been wracking my brain over the issue of "What force" - so I had a word with a mate of mine, who knows about this sort of thing (having an engineering degree, I thought he'd know how it all worked).

He came up with the following:

"It's the balance between the two; one forces the bike outwards, away
from the centre of rotation, the other holds it in, making you go round
the corner.

Centripetal force is the one you apply to go round a corner. If you spin
a weight on a string around your head, the string is applying a
centripetal force to stop the weight flying off and smashing into the
wall, while the centrifugal force is keeping the string tight.

If you only had one force, you'd either lowside off the bike, or head
off into the bushes at a tangent."

So we are both right!

Just think, there is all this going on, but all we're trying to do is get round in one piece!

[Devil]

I've been wracking my brain over the issue of "What force" - so I had a word with a mate of mine, who knows about this sort of thing (having an engineering degree, I thought he'd know how it all worked).

He came up with the following:

"It's the balance between the two; one forces the bike outwards, away
from the centre of rotation, the other holds it in, making you go round
the corner.

Centripetal force is the one you apply to go round a corner. If you spin
a weight on a string around your head, the string is applying a
centripetal force to stop the weight flying off and smashing into the
wall, while the centrifugal force is keeping the string tight.

If you only had one force, you'd either lowside off the bike, or head
off into the bushes at a tangent."

So we are both right!

Just think, there is all this going on, but all we're trying to do is get round in one piece!

Im going to have to go ahead and disagree with you there. But as for the reason...well, ill think about it later!

/me goes back to slacking.

Brain fart: Momentum is trying to drive the bike in a straight line, the centripetal force is trying to accelerate the bike inwards using friction in the form of tyre grip (in the weight on a string example, the string would be the tyres, trying to accelerate the weight inwards). If friction is lost (eg. string breaks) then the momentum of the bike takes over and the bike heads off in a straight line perpendicular to the original motion (turning).

et voila, mon lapin est chomage.

[Dr Bob]

I think that this conversation is just going round in circles.

[Devil]

Centripetal acceleration....in conversation!
muaha!

WHEEEE LOOK AT IT GO!!!!

[Skyryder]

As I understand, it is gyroscopic, the two moving wheels, that keep the bike in a straight line. When the gyroscopic force is moved out of alighnment by turning the front wheel the bike has to be leaned so that the rear wheel can follow the front. I would think that it is traction (resisting centrafugal )and nothing else that keeps the bike from sliding from underneath when cornering. Loose traction..........whoops that was close.............or bugger.

Momentum is provided by both the engine power and inertia.

Skyryder

[DEATH_INC.]

Have a look at this:
http://www.tonyfoale.com
look under the Misc articles then the camber thrust article......