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"Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary - that's what gets you."
Jeremy Clarkson.
Kawasaki 200mph Club
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So what were you going to use the trailer for?![]()
OH AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DISAGREED WITH MY POST:
Originally Posted by Disco Dan
honda firestorm while going about 280kmph
That needs to be moved to jokes and humour
Have since gotten the owner to join KB... ask him yourself
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/member.php?u=8514
Rant over...![]()
"Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary - that's what gets you."
Jeremy Clarkson.
Kawasaki 200mph Club
There is no way in hell that a VTR could do 280 2 up. Impossible.
Do you understand just how much horsepower you need for that? 100HP will get you to 240 km/hr. After that the amount of power required to punch a very aerodynamically inefficient shape, made less aerodynamically efficient by having two lumps of un-aerodynamic human on it, increases logarithmically.
Get the details of the guy's bike, plug them into the calculator in the link I've attached and continue to argue that a VTR can do 280. You won't be able to.
You will need measured rear wheel horsepower for the VTR in question, from a dyno to accurately complete the equation.
Most speedos are approx 10% inaccurate and almost all over read by that amount. If your friend has re-geared (people usually lower gearing for better acceleration and easier wheelis) his VTR then he could have made it over read even worse.
Assuming it is standard, you can subtract at least 28 km/hr from the maximum reading. If he has made a 10% reduction in gearing as well then you could be looking at a min 56 km/hr speedo inaccuracy at an indicated 280 km.hr. Which is what I think we are looking at.
Tell your mate to do the science, not the anecdotal blather.
My RC30, with $2500 dollars worth of race kit parts (cams & valves) made 108BHP at the rear wheel and recorded a radar measured and time vs distance confirmed 265km/hr with me folded up like a pretzel and me only weighing 85 kgs back back in 1991.
http://www.bgsoflex.com/auto.html
He's talking bollocks.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
I've done a rough calculation based on assumptions and figures I've gleaned from various VTR sites and this is what it looks like:
Input Parameters Are the Following:Computation Results:
Coefficient of drag = 0.4
Frontal Area = 10.00 sq feet
Test Temperature = 70.00 degrees F
Test Barometer = 30.00 inches Hg
Vehiche MPH = 170
Air Density Computed is 0.00233
Aerodynamic "Drag Factor" is 0.01078
Rolling "Drag Factor" is 66.11639
Computed Aerodynamic Horsepower Required is 141
Computed Rolling Horsepower Required is 15
Computed Frontal Lift Force is 55 Lbs.
Dyno his bike - if it has 141 rear wheel horse power then it is a pretty worked VTR1000. I'm being pretty kind and assuming neither of you is a fat bastard.
Last edited by James Deuce; 20th October 2006 at 07:58.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
Shit that's one slippery bike
I'll just find the post on drag, because that's near sports car limits.
EDIT : http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...8&postcount=38
Whack those calculations in again with a drag of at least 0.7
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
I know - I was being kind.
I did 0.7 and it was 230 REAR WHEEL HP needed to hit 280kph.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
I smell something stinky about the Firestorm, and still waiting for the owner to confirm this
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Death cometh sooner or late
And how can a man die better
Than facing fearful odds
For the ashes of his fathers
And the temples of his Gods
Dont be too quick to write this one off. My needle stopped at the 280 mark on the speedo. Not a true reading of actual ground speed i admit. This bike definatly delivers and im going to spend an easy 2K to make sure that everything i can wring out of this machine. I just got a new RK XW- Ring chain to handle the tourqe. Im going to use racing fuel, heavy duty plugs and leads to boot.
Any suggestions from anyone, even those whom have little faith, to what i can do to make this thing shatter barriers to near on flying, would be thanked. I dont have a partner to nag me about not doing this, so im going to have fun oushing this bike to its limits. I even considered putting it on the track for some amusement. I love this shit.
Race fuel needs jetting and dyno retune, and is hard to get.... And VTRs don't have a reputation as the best handling beasts out there... Fun to ride all the same!
My reccommendation is suspension before power.
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