Why is a batch called a batch?

[ManDownUnder]

My understanding is that it's come from the old single man's quarters used by forestry and other organisations (as opposed to married quarters where they got the flash stuff like... electricity...)

t'was for bachelors, and from that came the bach (hence the similar pronounciation) and the "bachelor pad" known for it's clenliness, lace curtains and good smell...

The above is completely unqualified, just what's in mind and and of that Ixion based etimolo... histrory stuff...

[McJim]

could be the " Fush n Chups OWWW" accent ..

The irony is that Fush n' Chups is the Scottish pronunciation. Of all the British colonies New Zealand received the highest proportion of scots...followed by Canada I think.

This has resulted in a large number of conversations with my mother in law when I first came here along the lines of
"This is a typical kiwi thing". "Yeah, we have them in Scotland too"
"This is how we do this in NZ". "Yup, that's how we do it in Scotland too"
"This is what we call these in NZ". "That's what we call them in Scotland too"
etc.

It's nice - makes me feel at home.

[Dai]

Only if you are Welch.

But I did mis-spell it, left out the 'a', should be cymraic.

The language of early Celtic inhabitants of Britain, which later evolved into Welch.

Goody, does this mean that there is now another Welchman here that I can blame for everything, along with Mr Biff (He's Welch too, y'know, so he's to blame). You don't know anything about my great-many-greats-grandfather's sheep do you? Twas a Welchman stole it.

25 years in Caerydd, buttie. Kiwi by birth, Celtic by ancestry, Welsh by adoption. The Welshman was probably a "der Tidy" from the valleys and he didnt steal the sheep, he married it.

Dai

[SARGE]

The irony is that Fush n' Chups is the Scottish pronunciation. Of all the British colonies New Zealand received the highest proportion of scots...followed by Canada I think.

This has resulted in a large number of conversations with my mother in law when I first came here along the lines of
"This is a typical kiwi thing". "Yeah, we have them in Scotland too"
"This is how we do this in NZ". "Yup, that's how we do it in Scotland too"
"This is what we call these in NZ". "That's what we call them in Scotland too"
etc.

It's nice - makes me feel at home.

yea man ... hit Otara and see if you can decipher what the hell anyone is talking about ..


or come to Mt. Roskill and get a crash course in Farsi, Hindu and Chinese..

[Crisis management]

The noun Bach is derived from the greek Baachus, in its original usage meant to denote a big piss up, they even named a god after it, very originally called Baachus as well.
The early settlers to these shores (sorry, not the tangata whenua, they couldn't spell) in true gentlemanly fashion brought their greek learning with them and continued to have huge Baachii at regular intervals.
As our local language developed and our ties to England weakened popular pronunciation shortened the word from Baachus to Bach and as most piss ups occured at the weekend at the beach the term became synonimous with the holiday house.
There, a direct link from ancient greek culture to a can of Tui's, what more can you want!
Pocorn please Ixion???

[Ixion]

25 years in Caerydd, buttie. Kiwi by birth, Celtic by ancestry, Welsh by adoption. The Welshman was probably a "der Tidy" from the valleys and he didnt steal the sheep, he married it.

Dai

Ah, now who shall be Pistol to thy Fluellen. We have Falstaffs enough but a Harry is too much to look for. And I am SO not going to mention Mistress Quickly, she knows who she is!

[Hillbilly]

"This sandal is known by different names in different localities:

In New Zealand English they are known generically as jandals (Japanese Sandals), a name used by one manufacturer. However intellectual property law prevented the term Jandals being used when sold in other countries."

from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flip-flop

Well, you learn something new every day!

[Ixion]

Don't have the word at home. We have shacks, weekenders and holiday homes - I think like Soobarroo it's a uniquely kiwi word - where from?

See what you have started !

[Hitcher]

At least in New Zealand, Subaru didn't wimp out and rename the Legacy because a bunch of WWII vets complained about a Japanese car having such a name...

[Big Dave]

At least in New Zealand, Subaru didn't wimp out and rename the Legacy because a bunch of WWII vets complained about a Japanese car having such a name...

Don't mention the war.

[Big Dave]

See what you have started !

Shaddap and eat yer popcorn.

[dawnrazor]

Interestingly enough in the Catalan region of Spain/France there is a word for a small house/out house spelt bach pronounced bash.

Bet no one knew that then!

[Skyryder]

My extensive research has confirmed that the bach is where the ladies made their scones as ............while the men listened to bach on the grammaphone.

The time hounoured tradition of the early Kiwi gentleman assurred civility between the sexes by pronouncing the holiday home as batch therefore assuring tranquilty with the fairer sex and spelling the 'batch' as bach and therefore retaining masculine dominance.

Going to the 'damper' just did not sound right. Some will get that some t will not.

Skyryder

[boomer]

its bach for bachelors, where the guys on the road gangs use to sleep when working away.

And Jandals and Thongs are all wrong, theyre flip flops or sandals or if, like me, you hate the fukin things and wouldn't be seen dead in a pair they're jesus doc'ers ( as in doc martins' boots)

fukin Kiwi's.. we gave you a language then you have to go fuck it up, just like the bastard septic tanks.

[rogson]

OK........Batch is really Bach, and is derived from Batchelors or Bachelors. Of course........bloody obvious. Solved!

My question is, where did "crib" come from, and at the risk of adding another 50 pages to this thread - why is it crib in the SI and Bach in the NI?

Sorry Dave - but I would really like to know.