Well... It finally happened...

[hsvboy06]

At 50km/h you cover 20m in about 1.5 seconds. If you accellerated at a constant rate from a standing start then it'd probably be about 3 seconds.
My guess is that the van driver saw the traffic stopped at the lights and just didn't expect anyone to be at his intersection that quickly.
That doesn't make it your fault, but my impression is that you gunned it from the lights (leaving the cars way behind) and personally I think that's unwise in situations like this.

[spudchucka]

I'm just waiting the police officers to come on duty so I can ring them up and talk to them again.,

How about I e-mail the Palmy station a montage of some of your previously posted opinions of the NZ police, might help get things sorted out nice and quick for ya.

[bobsmith]

How about I e-mail the Palmy station a montage of some of your previously posted opinions of the NZ police, might help get things sorted out nice and quick for ya.

are you trying to tell me that I should just forget it and call the lawyers first?

[Str8 Jacket]

are you trying to tell me that I should just forget it and call the lawyers first?

hehe, turn for the books.....

[McJim]

are you trying to tell me that I should just forget it and call the lawyers first?

I think Spud's just messin' witcha. He's enjoying the fact that you have to be nice to police officers at this moment in time.

I don't for a second think that any of the police on the forum take the cop bashing personally - I know I never get personally upset about the stuff said about Debt Collectors and Accountants!

This might be a good time to bury the hatchet with the boys in blue online and ask for their advice?

Just a thought.

[Sketchy_Racer]

I havn't read all the previous posts,

But,

When the traffic is stopped, You ARE allowed to pass. Its called passing within your own lane. So i cant see what you did there.

Regardless on how fast you left the lights (unless you were doing a wheelie or burnout, which you get done for excessive acceleration) The van has no right to pull out infront of you. Its HIS problem to make sure he doesn't pull out infront of you, regardless. How ever, If you WERE speeding, then it can become your fault. From what i read of your original story, The van must pay out.

Good luck anyway dude, Oh

I guess your not coming to the Great KBer ride then?

[bobsmith]

Thanks everyone for the support

McJim - I thought as much. I don't really have much trouble with individual police offiers usually as long as I meet them while they're not on duty... it's the police force as a whole that I don't like Wouldn't want Mr Spud to be disappointed at the lack of reply to his remark though.

RG100 - well the traffic wasn't completely stationary when I passed the first car, they were just starting to move, and my argument is that I passed him before getting actually into the intersection (as he took off really slow and he was stopped fair bit away from the lines) I was probably along side his rear wheel when he started moving oh so slowly however I did still pass on the right and before the intersection which was legal they're saying however the car driver testified that he had already proceeded into the intersection when I passed him which I don't agree with.

Oh and when's the great KB ride? hopefully I'll have my bike fixed or a new one by then.

[Freakshow]

This is a really interesting Thread...

Thanks to all those with there what you should have done stories and prevention stories. Some of them I do in my own way and others I m going to think about more.

My opion is you had 10 metres to hit a parked van bad Idea. Really that means you had plenty of time before that to reconise idiot (as anyone else using the road is) was crossing infront of you.

How about I e-mail the Palmy station a montage of some of your previously posted opinions of the NZ police, might help get things sorted out nice and quick for ya.

Spud that was a great comment by the way.

I havn't read all the previous posts,

But,

When the traffic is stopped, You ARE allowed to pass. Its called passing within your own lane. So i cant see what you did there.

Is this true??? As far as I knew it was a bit dodge. I always thought I am in no mans land when splitting until I am back in a lane flowing with the traffic.



Hope you get better Bob, the only bad mistake is one you dont learn from.

[bobsmith]

Okay, I just talked to the insurance company and I'm confused. They're saying that while I have no claims bonus on my car and my contents I actually don't have one on my bike so that won't be affected. I thought that the no claims bonus was something that goes across all of your policies??? and the person told me that this claim while it will delay my no claims bonus for the bike until starting later, it won't affect the no claims bonus I have on my car which is great! but I'm not sure if that person knew what he was talking about. Does that sound right>???

Hmmm if that person was right, even if the worst happens it might not turn out too bad... strage though was that my bike is insured for 5000 and I'm paying 470 a year on premiums for full cover... apprently without no claims bonus... DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT???

[beyond]

Bit of a rock and hard place mate.

Mostly I've noticed that the boys in blue respect the comments of middle aged motorists over the comments made by some young, lout on a motorbike.
Speaking generally here but that seems to be the case especially when one or more gang up on you.

When I had been riding for several months on my 250 some 30 years ago, things weren't much different. I overtook a line of cars on a country road and the first one, (lady) turned in front of me without indicating, into a right hand road. Tried turning with her and smacked into the right pillar, smashing her windscreen, door and window, bonnet as I went over it and totalled her right front hub.

Remember lying in the ditch and the old geezer following her in the other car said, "Good, the buggers going to die."!!!!

I remember the bikey who stopped to help and saw the whole thing. So I'm in hospital, the bikes a writeoff and the lady said she was indicating and the old geezer said she was. I said no way in hell would I overtake someone indicating and the bikey up the road testified that she wasn't indicating at any stage.

Well, I got done for careless, had no insurance, my bike was totalled plus I had to pay all the damages on the old trouts car and I had a witness too.

There's justice for you.

Prepare for the worst and if it's better than that, you're lucky.

[sAsLEX]

If the cop is desk bound or you can catch him at the station would be better to go in person, that is if you are a respectable looking person, take that diagram and make a statement of your recollection of the facts.

[The_Dover]

I think you should go right in there and tell that motherfucker JUST how you like your PORK.

Put that bitch in his place.

[bobsmith]

thanks guys. I think I might wait for the weekend call up a friend's brother who's a lawyer have a chat with him to make sure I know everything I should do/say then talk to them first thing next money, will help me organise my thoughts better and prepare myself as well. I don't think I want to talk to them while I'm so hot headed...

Anyway here are some pics I took today when I went to revisit the site.

[ManDownUnder]

Okay, I just talked to the insurance company and I'm confused. They're saying that while I have no claims bonus on my car and my contents I actually don't have one on my bike so that won't be affected. I thought that the no claims bonus was something that goes across all of your policies??? and the person told me that this claim while it will delay my no claims bonus for the bike until starting later, it won't affect the no claims bonus I have on my car which is great! but I'm not sure if that person knew what he was talking about. Does that sound right>???

Hmmm if that person was right, even if the worst happens it might not turn out too bad... strage though was that my bike is insured for 5000 and I'm paying 470 a year on premiums for full cover... apprently without no claims bonus... DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT???

Sounds bloody odd... but I wouldn't rule it out.

You'll still be liable for the excess if you are held responsible though

Edit - get what they said in an email... in writing... pronto. Point at it later if you need to

[MikeyG]

Okay, I just talked to the insurance company and I'm confused. They're saying that while I have no claims bonus on my car and my contents I actually don't have one on my bike so that won't be affected. I thought that the no claims bonus was something that goes across all of your policies??? and the person told me that this claim while it will delay my no claims bonus for the bike until starting later, it won't affect the no claims bonus I have on my car which is great! but I'm not sure if that person knew what he was talking about. Does that sound right>???

Hmmm if that person was right, even if the worst happens it might not turn out too bad... strage though was that my bike is insured for 5000 and I'm paying 470 a year on premiums for full cover... apprently without no claims bonus... DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT???

I'm with AMI and they have done the same for me. Also on the bike policy it only takes 1 year without crases to get the full no claims bonus.

If you can't afford full insurance straight out you can get third party initially then upgrade to full cover after one year and get the full no claims bonus on full cover straight away