Wanted: 250cc bike for for learner!! anything considered

[MSTRS:Me]

hah, is that a v twin? i have to say the cbr250r i rode sounded fucken incredible. have you heard a zxr before?

You do know that the sound is more down to the particular muffler (or lack of) ?? An inline 4 250 will scream it's lungs out with a free-flowing exhaust system but any motor can give you the urge to 'scratch' if it has the 'right' stuff.

[MSTRS:Me]

MSTRS sounds like a grumpy old fart but he speaketh wisdom!

Yeah and I can't ride for shit either

[Delirium]

those are some good points. you definitely sound like you know what you are on about. like i said above, iv had alot of experience with cars and driven plenty of them, fast. iv also crashed because of this. so im pretty much over the whole straight line speed thing, as my car that i drive now has similar power levels to some of the bikes mentioned on this thread. im alot more matured now and prefer to enjoy myself rather then 'chop it down a few gears and go for it on the straights'.

[gamgee]

hah, is that a v twin? i have to say the cbr250r i rode sounded fucken incredible. have you heard a zxr before?

even better it's a V4
yeah i've ridden a zxr400 they don't sound as good as the vfr

[Delirium]

You do know that the sound is more down to the particular muffler (or lack of) ?? An inline 4 250 will scream it's lungs out with a free-flowing exhaust system but any motor can give you the urge to 'scratch' if it has the 'right' stuff.

yea thats true, but looking at the more technical side of things, would the particular engine not influence the sound more-so? then again, the same thing applys with cars. you can hear some sort of car with a certain muffler on and it sounds like shit. and another with a different muffler that sounds great...

[gamgee]

gamgee my man seein as the young gentleman doesnt want your magnificant machine i will take it off your hands for 1500 cold hard cash things... gotta be a deal

ok you give me $1500 in cold hard cash, then transfer the other $1500 via internet banking or something then you can have the bike

[SwanTiger]

those are some good points. you definitely sound like you know what you are on about. like i said above, iv had alot of experience with cars and driven plenty of them, fast. iv also crashed because of this. so im pretty much over the whole straight line speed thing, as my car that i drive now has similar power levels to some of the bikes mentioned on this thread. im alot more matured now and prefer to enjoy myself rather then 'chop it down a few gears and go for it on the straights'.

All good.

I've read the whole thread and it sounds like you have your head screwed on well enough. I'm not an experienced rider by any means, I've just seen too many people go into ditches and learnt from their (and my own) mistakes.

If you like inline fours, I reckon a Honda Hornet 250 or Bandit 250 would give you a tickle and be the ultimate bike to carry you through the "learner licensing bullshit phase". If I could go back to when I was looking for a bike, I would scrap the GTR for a Hornet 250.

[Ixion]

yea actually i was going to look at a '91 bandit here in the bay but that got sold. ideally i want a zxr or a cbr, but i dont want one just so it can go 180kmph or what ever, but for the pure build quality, handling, sound, aesthetics etc. the other thing is i dont consider myself as a complete beginner, allthough that may sound a bit 'up myself', i honestly feel confident on a road bike, compared to guys that havent had much experience at all (i used to thrash my mates fxr150 everywhere, and racked up a few hundred km's, even though i didnt have my licence ) i know a few of those people and they have gn250's and fxr150's, and i say good on them.

those are some good points. you definitely sound like you know what you are on about. like i said above, iv had alot of experience with cars and driven plenty of them, fast. iv also crashed because of this. so im pretty much over the whole straight line speed thing, as my car that i drive now has similar power levels to some of the bikes mentioned on this thread. im alot more matured now and prefer to enjoy myself rather then 'chop it down a few gears and go for it on the straights'.

Yep, clearly a mature and cautious rider here. Don't waste your time with four strokes, they're all much too slow for you. What you need is a two stroke. The H2 Kawasaki would be perfect, but alas long out of production. Try an Aprilia or RGV250.

Though, why restrict yourself to a 250. If you get a bigger bike, you can go faster. And someone with your experience needn't worry about the cops, just do a runner. You could get a litre bike for $5k. 250kph plus.

[slimjim]

Don't know if my bike suits you. (Using my mates access at mo cause I can't remember by password!)
She's a 1998 Suzuki GZ250 Marauder, a small cruiser (gets mistaken for a harley, which gets up my back!), goes great, 37000 kms, has a little bit of grunt and sounds like it too (due to having the exhaust drilled out). Looking to sell her to trade up.
Anyway email back through this if you are interested. Shazzygirl.

[Delirium]

what the hell is a GTR anyway? iv never heard of one before. accept of corse the car. whos into cars on this forum by the way? that is my other passion so you all know... lol
and yea you're right, iv learnt from my mistakes. boy have i what. and now as i drive around in my dads car everywhere while my project car sits in the shed at home, i watch everyone around me crash and burn just like i did. i swear nearly everyone of my mates ahve had some sort of accident. its good to know that iv learnt my lessons early aswell. its matured me a hell of a lot.

[MSTRS:Me]

what the hell is a GTR anyway? iv never heard of one before.

Hyosung....

[Delirium]

Yep, clearly a mature and cautious rider here. Don't waste your time with four strokes, they're all much too slow for you. What you need is a two stroke. The H2 Kawasaki would be perfect, but alas long out of production. Try an Aprilia or RGV250.

Though, why restrict yourself to a 250. If you get a bigger bike, you can go faster. And someone with your experience needn't worry about the cops, just do a runner. You could get a litre bike for $5k. 250kph plus.

mate, dont waste my time. i dont know if you are being serious or not but it doesnt look like it. im sick of dickheads that try and take the piss on forums. if you are being a dickhead, then fuck off. excuse my language

[Delirium]

Hyosung....

oh ok yea im with ya now. cheers

[SwanTiger]

what the hell is a GTR anyway? iv never heard of one before. accept of corse the car. whos into cars on this forum by the way? that is my other passion so you all know... lol

Hyosung GT 250R, a Korean made bike.

Here is one forsale on Trade Me: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...n-70981113.htm

I've attached a couple of pictures as well, the first one is actually of a GT 650R (I made that up in PSP when I was bored) and the second is the 2006 GT 250R.

and yea you're right, iv learnt from my mistakes. boy have i what. and now as i drive around in my dads car everywhere while my project car sits in the shed at home, i watch everyone around me crash and burn just like i did. i swear nearly everyone of my mates ahve had some sort of accident. its good to know that iv learnt my lessons early aswell. its matured me a hell of a lot.

Seriously, don't worry about performance such as handling, power, brakes, etc. Think about which bike is going to "teach" you the most and provide you with the experience required to be considered a competent motorcyclist and most importantly what will give you the most enjoyment.

On the other hand, if you're really just into the whole go fast have a thrash thing you may as well buy a GSX-R 1000 or if you wanna stay legal, like Ixion says, buy a two stroke 250. But I'll put $1,000 bet that you'll end up like that cjade fellow on this site.

I originally wen't out looking for a CBR250RR as my first bike 'cos I heard from my mates that it was "fast" and shit like that. Luckily the dealer I spoke to wasn't so obsessed with making a sale and put the effort into helping me find a suitable bike that I liked. I still wanted to be "fast" and shit. But...

On reflection, I've given myself a few shit scares that I saved on the Hyosung, especially in the first 3 months. I honestly believe if I had of been stubborn and only gone with the CBR I would be dead or of had a serious accident 'cos I would of pushed the bike beyond my abilities at the time.

Live and learn. I've been in the same place as you with the same thoughts and had someone tell me the same stuff and I stopped to listen.

Anyway, I'm sure you get the message.

[MSTRS:Me]

mate, dont waste my time. i dont know if you are being serious or not but it doesnt look like it. im sick of dickheads that try and take the piss on forums. if you are being a dickhead, then fuck off. excuse my language

Thought about redding you for this....but then it's not your fault that sarcasm is beyond your understanding. Tis OK - like listening to advise, it will come with maturity.