We are all screwed

**Mrs Busa Pete** · 3rd October 2006, 13:03

after spending the day in north shore district court i have come to the conclusion that becouse traffic casses don,t qualafy for legal aid unless you have several thousand dollers to throw away on a layer that you can,t get back they can drive allong stop beside you and do you for what ever they won,t to after all you don,t have a leg to stand on becouse they can make up what ever tale they won,t its your word against theres . Its time they should have video operating in the cars so there is hard core evedence not two cops making it up later allso gps readouts on the black box with audio just Its a sad day when rapest and murders can get asistance but joe public can,t IT COMES AS NO SERPRIZE THAT MOST PEOPLE HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THE SYSTEM OR THE COPS .I USE TO BUT NOW ITS NO PLATE /NO STOPING AND FUCKEM ALL .i know some officers personaly they arn,t like that but some officers tarnish the lot with a bitter stench of coruption

**The_Dover** · 3rd October 2006, 13:05

Welcome to Club Dover.

Your membership card is in the post.

**McJim** · 3rd October 2006, 13:06

Always carry a voice recorder - always ask them to clearly and concisely tell you what traffic infringment you have commited and why - then you'll have a record for court for later.

Many mobile phones on the market already have this facility.

**crashe** · 3rd October 2006, 13:06

So I take it you lost your case...... Buggar.

So you got a $130 court fine on top of it all as well... damn.....

**Mrs Busa Pete** · 3rd October 2006, 13:12

Originally Posted by crashe

So I take it you lost your case...... Buggar.

So you got a $130 court fine on top of it all as well... damn.....

NO $30 COSTS FOR SOME CAGE DRIVING PRICKS FINE

**dawnrazor** · 3rd October 2006, 16:04

Originally Posted by McJim

Always carry a voice recorder - always ask them to clearly and concisely tell you what traffic infringment you have commited and why - then you'll have a record for court for later.

Many mobile phones on the market already have this facility.

If you do this, be very clear that you aren't doing it covertly - thats entrapment apperently..ahem....cough......

**gamgee** · 3rd October 2006, 16:21

Originally Posted by dawnrazor

If you do this, be very clear that you aren't doing it covertly - thats entrapment apperently..ahem....cough......

what, no it's not, entrapment is when you coerce someone into commiting a crime, like for example if a cop knew someone was a drug user and the cop asked them if they'd like to share a ciggaweed, the guy initially says no, the cop asks again and he says yes, it's basically them being put in extraordinary circumstances which increased the likelihood of the crime being commited or coerced into commiting crime

**Zed** · 3rd October 2006, 16:22

Originally Posted by busa pete

after spending the day in north shore district court i have come to the conclusion that becouse traffic casses don,t qualafy for legal aid unless you have several thousand dollers to throw away on a layer that you can,t get back they can drive allong stop beside you and do you for what ever they won,t to after all you don,t have a leg to stand on becouse they can make up what ever tale they won,t its your word against theres . Its time they should have video operating in the cars so there is hard core evedence not two cops making it up later allso gps readouts on the black box with audio just Its a sad day when rapest and murders can get asistance but joe public can,t IT COMES AS NO SERPRIZE THAT MOST PEOPLE HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THE SYSTEM OR THE COPS .I USE TO BUT NOW ITS NO PLATE /NO STOPING AND FUCKEM ALL .i know some officers personaly they arn,t like that but some officers tarnish the lot with a bitter stench of coruption

I feel your rage Pete, sory it wasn't a favourable outcome for you.

I'd say a few few of us

have been to court for a driving/riding offense and witnessed the corruption of the justice system, I don't have any hope that we'll see a change for the better in NZ unfortunately, the best advise around is "if you're not breaking the law you've got nothing to fear", but that's easier said than done with bikes, especially when there are so many liars in positions of authority, I've seen it over and over again in this life!

**The_Dover** · 3rd October 2006, 16:24

Originally Posted by Zed

especially when there are so many liars in positions of authority, I've seen it over and over again in this life!

those pesky priests.............

**Maha** · 3rd October 2006, 16:28

Originally Posted by McJim

Always carry a voice recorder - always ask them to clearly and concisely tell you what traffic infringment you have commited and why - then you'll have a record for court for later.

Many mobile phones on the market already have this facility.

Pete does carry one of those voice recorder things, i have seen it, its the size of an Otara briefcase and can pick up SKY 1 and the racing channel..

**Grahameeboy** · 3rd October 2006, 16:36

Originally Posted by The_Dover

those pesky priests.............

I think you have missed your true calling Ben

**Zed** · 3rd October 2006, 16:41

Originally Posted by The_Dover

those pesky priests.............

A fitting description yes. I hope that knowledge didn't come through your succumbing to peskyomony as a youth?? You've had a hard life havn't ya mate!