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[McJim]

I like the way you're thinking adiddy. You will get way more respect (and learn more) by riding a 250 well than you will for riding a 600 badly.

I might even hang on to the VTR for a while after I've got my full - who knows?

I see you've got another thread about 250 upgrade - interested to find out if by 'Better 250' you just mean 'Faster 250'.....

Laters

[adiddy]

nah mcjim i mean something different to handle, maybe a bit more challenging?! to keep my riding developing

[WINJA]

How You Would You Feel As A Mother If A Bike Shop Sold Your Son Who Had A Learners Bike Licence An R1 And He Goes Out And Kills Himself On It , This Really Happened But The Pigs Dont Follow That Shit Up , Btw The Bike Shop Was Cyclespot , They Also Sold Another Friend Of Mine With No Bike Licence A Vtr 1000 And He Promptly Crashed It, Shouldnt These Types Of Dealers Be Put Outa Business

[adiddy]

i get your drift winja lol...

[Forest]

How You Would You Feel As A Mother If A Bike Shop Sold Your Son Who Had A Learners Bike Licence An R1 And He Goes Out And Kills Himself On It , This Really Happened But The Pigs Dont Follow That Shit Up , Btw The Bike Shop Was Cyclespot , They Also Sold Another Friend Of Mine With No Bike Licence A Vtr 1000 And He Promptly Crashed It, Shouldnt These Types Of Dealers Be Put Outa Business

Disclaimer: I don't have kids. I like them (but I'm not sure if I could eat a whole one).

However I don't believe that dealers should be held responsible when people misuse the products that they sell.

At the end of the day people need to take responsibility for themselves and their actions. Blaming it on the dealer is missing the real point i.e. that a small number of people are making incredibly stupid decisions.

[WINJA]

Disclaimer: I don't have kids. I like them (but I'm not sure if I could eat a whole one).

However I don't believe that dealers should be held responsible when people misuse the products that they sell.

At the end of the day people need to take responsibility for themselves and their actions. Blaming it on the dealer is missing the real point i.e. that a small number of people are making incredibly stupid decisions.

BUT FOR THE ACTIONS OF THAT DEALER MY FRIEND WOULD BE ALIVE , HE WAS STILL LEARNING ABOUT LIFE AS WELL AS BEING ON A LEARNER LICENCE, HE DIDNT KNOW WHAT WAS RIGHT FOR HIM AND WHAT WAS SAFE WHICH IS THE WHOLE POINT OF LEARNER LAWS , SURE HE WAS WRONG BUYING THAT BIKE BUT THE BIKE SHOP ENABLED HIM WITH AN EASY FINANCE OPTION ACHIEVED BY LIENG TO THE FINANCE COMPANY ABOUT HIS LICENCE STATUS, THIS IS AN OFFENCE IN ITSELF , ITS ALSO AN OFENCE TO HELP SOMEONE COMIT A CRIME WHICH IS WHAT THE BIKE SHOP DID WHEN THEY GAVE HIM A 1000CC SPORTS BIKE FO $40 A WEEK, HEY AS LONG AS THEY MAKE MONEY AYE

[paturoa]

good chioce - stick with the 250 for a while

I moved up bikes too soon and was shit lucky several times as a young fella before the old frontal lobes finished growing.

[WINJA]

Oh Yeah , Fuck That Learner Thing Tho , I Had A 250 But Also Had A Mcintosh Br1 850 Cc And A Gpz1000rx All While On My Learners, I Did Runners Too , Also Did Over 200kmh Thru Mission Bay While Still On A Learners , Dont Really Know How I Lived

[scumdog]

Oh Yeah , Fuck That Learner Thing Tho , I Had A 250 But Also Had A Mcintosh Br1 850 Cc And A Gpz1000rx All While On My Learners, I Did Runners Too , Also Did Over 200kmh Thru Mission Bay While Still On A Learners , Dont Really Know How I Lived

Shoulda told your mate how you did all that shit and lived - he might still be alive now, don't go blaming the bike shop, it's like blaming the gun shop that sold the bullets to the twat that shot the Amish kids.

[James Deuce]

Not really because you have to be licensed to buy a firearm.

You don't have to be licensed to buy a vehicle.

[scumdog]

Not really because you have to be licensed to buy a firearm.

You don't have to be licensed to buy a vehicle.

Te be pedantic: in the USA most states don't require you to have a licence to buy ammo -OR guns in most cases.
(Except handguns and machine guns in most states)

[Forest]

BUT FOR THE ACTIONS OF THAT DEALER MY FRIEND WOULD BE ALIVE , HE WAS STILL LEARNING ABOUT LIFE AS WELL AS BEING ON A LEARNER LICENCE, HE DIDNT KNOW WHAT WAS RIGHT FOR HIM AND WHAT WAS SAFE WHICH IS THE WHOLE POINT OF LEARNER LAWS , SURE HE WAS WRONG BUYING THAT BIKE BUT THE BIKE SHOP ENABLED HIM WITH AN EASY FINANCE OPTION ACHIEVED BY LIENG TO THE FINANCE COMPANY ABOUT HIS LICENCE STATUS, THIS IS AN OFFENCE IN ITSELF , ITS ALSO AN OFENCE TO HELP SOMEONE COMIT A CRIME WHICH IS WHAT THE BIKE SHOP DID WHEN THEY GAVE HIM A 1000CC SPORTS BIKE FO $40 A WEEK, HEY AS LONG AS THEY MAKE MONEY AYE

Dude - I don't want to get into an argument with you. He was obviously a friend and I don't want to piss on your memories.

But I will say this. One of the main reasons that I ride is the thrill of knowing that I alone am in control of the bike. From the moment that I throw my leg over the seat, the bike will respond to nobody else but me.

You might be a bit too young to realise it yet - and your friend may have died before he could understand it - but the price of having this control is that we alone are responsible for the consequences of our actions.

[FilthyLuka]

BUT FOR THE ACTIONS OF THAT DEALER MY FRIEND WOULD BE ALIVE

i have just been shot. should you blame the man that shot me? or the man he got the gun from... or the maker of the gun... or the person who sold him the bullets... or the maker of the bullets.... or god himself for creating raw materials used to construct these bullets... moral of the story. Blame god for every problem :P

as for getting a bigger bike on your restricted... er... why? do you really want to risk a $400 dollar fine and having your shiny 600 impounded. Personally, id wait out the years waiting period...

as for your parents... dont die and they wont kill you

[WINJA]

Shoulda told your mate how you did all that shit and lived - he might still be alive now, don't go blaming the bike shop, it's like blaming the gun shop that sold the bullets to the twat that shot the Amish kids.

ACTUALLY I WOULD BLAME THE GUN SHOP OWNER AS WELL IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES, LIKE SELLING A WEAPON TO SOMEONE WHO IS MENTAL OR HE KNOWS SHOULDNT HAVE THAT WEAPON, OR IF HE SOLD IT TO SOMEONE WITHOUT THE PROPER LICENCE.

IF I LEFT A JAR OF POISON BY MY LETTER BOX AND A KID DRUNK IT WOULD I BE RESPONSIBLE ?

YOU GOT A FUNNY ANGLE ON SHIT SCUMMY CONSIDERING YOUR A COP AND THEY HAND OUT TICKETS TO PASSENGERS OF CARS NOT BEING DRIVEN SAFELY THESE DAYS. FUCKEN OATH THAT BIKE SHOP IS PARTLY TO BLAME FOR MY MATES DEATH THEY GAVE HIM A TEST RIDE AND FINANCE ON A BIKE HE HAD NO LICENCE TO RIDE OR HAD NO RIGHT TO RIDE , THE GOVERNMENT CLASSIFIED HIM AS A LEARNER , USUALLY WHEN WE ARE A LEARNER WE,LL MAKE STUPID MISTAKES THATS WHY HE WAS LTD TO A 250 SO THE IMPACT OF THE MISTAKE MAYBE SMALLER AND ALSO CAUSE A 250 IS MORE FORGIVING TO LEARNERS, THE BIKE SHOP SHOULD HAVE A PROPORTION OF BLAME

[FilthyLuka]

IF I LEFT A JAR OF POISON BY MY LETTER BOX AND A KID DRUNK IT WOULD I BE RESPONSIBLE ?

err... what kind of a dumb arse kid drinks something he found next to a letter box? especially YOUR letterbox... i dont understand... HEY! a beaker filled with something!

glug, glug, glug... KATHUNK