Seriously Dodgy Trademe Bikes

**Shafted** · 29th June 2004, 10:07

Anyone want a real bargain ?

Looks like they can be had on trademe at the moment!

A number of new additions ...

Suzuki Katana 750 GSXF is in PERFECT condition . for reserve les that 1500

honda vfr 800 for $3100

Year: 2000
Miles: 17300
Engine: Heavy (700 cc and up)
Exterior: Green Metallic
VIN Number: JH2RC4604YM201277

etc ....

Not a good look

**kerryg** · 29th June 2004, 10:17

Originally Posted by Shafted

Anyone want a real bargain ?

Looks like they can be had on trademe at the moment!

A number of new additions ...

Suzuki Katana 750 GSXF is in PERFECT condition . for reserve les that 1500

honda vfr 800 for $3100

Year: 2000
Miles: 17300
Engine: Heavy (700 cc and up)
Exterior: Green Metallic
VIN Number: JH2RC4604YM201277

etc ....

Not a good look

Yes and a 2002 CBR929 for $4400....something fishy is afoot....seller will deliver by "DHL"...????

**Motoracer** · 29th June 2004, 10:23

Originally Posted by kerryg

Yes and a 2002 CBR929 for $4400....something fishy is afoot....seller will deliver by "DHL"...????

I have contacted him in the past, he's just a dumb f*ck! He actually gives con artists a bad name by being so pathetic.

**kerryg** · 29th June 2004, 10:52

Originally Posted by Shafted

Anyone want a real bargain ?

Looks like they can be had on trademe at the moment!

A number of new additions ...

Suzuki Katana 750 GSXF is in PERFECT condition . for reserve les that 1500

honda vfr 800 for $3100

Year: 2000
Miles: 17300
Engine: Heavy (700 cc and up)
Exterior: Green Metallic
VIN Number: JH2RC4604YM201277

etc ....

Not a good look

Yes and a 2002 CBR929 for $4400....something fishy is afoot....seller will deliver by "DHL"...????

**Motu** · 29th June 2004, 11:23

I don't doubt they are dodgy deals,and MR has dealt with one to prove it.But I have seen a lot of items put up at $1 reserve and yet go for a normal price.I once saw a good dirt bike go on at $1 reserve - a lot of questions about the low price,but the owner assured it would end up at the price he wanted...and yeah,it did too,but it sure is suspicious.

**FROSTY:Me** · 29th June 2004, 11:37

Originally Posted by Motoracer

I have contacted him in the past, he's just a dumb f*ck! He actually gives con artists a bad name by being so pathetic.

Ok so whats the story then.
Are they stolen bikes --or dont the exist at all??

**Motoracer** · 29th June 2004, 11:46

Originally Posted by XJ/FROSTY

Ok so whats the story then.
Are they stolen bikes --or dont the exist at all??

I contacted him through e-mail and he gave me various bits of info which didn't match up at all. He didn't have very good knowledge about bikes and he was just talking out of his ass.

Then my bro sent him and e-mail and he came up with a different story.

I can't remember the details but when I asked about it, the bike was in one of the Pacific Islands and when my bro asked (a few days later), it was in Asia.

**vifferman** · 29th June 2004, 11:50

Originally Posted by Motoracer

I contacted him through e-mail and he gave me various bits of info which didn't match up at all. He didn't have very good knowledge about bikes and he was just talking out of his ass.

Then my bro sent him and e-mail and he came up with a different story.

I can't remember the details but when I asked about it, the bike was in one of the Pacific Islands and when my bro asked (a few days later), it was in Asia.

Sounds like the same sort of thing as a mate of mine in LA. He advertised his VFR750 on eBay, and the next day someone in Holland started another auction using the same details and photos!

Just checked those TradeMe listings again - the VFR is listed twice, with two different sellers!!

**kerryg** · 29th June 2004, 12:31

Originally Posted by Motu

I don't doubt they are dodgy deals,and MR has dealt with one to prove it.But I have seen a lot of items put up at $1 reserve and yet go for a normal price.I once saw a good dirt bike go on at $1 reserve - a lot of questions about the low price,but the owner assured it would end up at the price he wanted...and yeah,it did too,but it sure is suspicious.

The ads in question are not auctions. The bikes are offered for sale at the listed prices..so if you've got 3 or 4 grand he'll sell them to you...if they exist.....

It's very weird. If the guy is for real he's dumb and if he's not for real he's a thief.

**vifferman** · 29th June 2004, 12:44

Originally Posted by firestormer

Just checked those TradeMe listings again - the VFR is listed twice, with two different sellers!!

Checked again - they've disappeared. Someone must have complained.

It's a bit

but something that always gets me (being a pedantrist and all) is that people advertise bikes and can't even spell their names. For example, there are currently 2 ZZR250s for sale on TradeMe - one is listed as a "Kawisaki", and the other as a "Kawawsaki".
Is it just too hard to look at the name label on the tank or summat?

**Eddieb** · 29th June 2004, 13:03

Check out www.scambusters.co.nz for details on common scam techniques being used on trademe. These sounds like exactly what they describe.

**gav** · 29th June 2004, 14:43

well, I sold my seriously dodgy bucket via Trademe so youre probably right.....

**bgd** · 29th June 2004, 19:44

Sounds like the sort of thing we see on Ebay quite a bit. They advertise a bike at a 'bargin' price. Bike is always located abroad so you can't inspect it. They will deliver by DHL / UPS, etc as soon as deposit or full funds are received. The give away is that they always require payment by (I think) Western Union money order or something similar. These can be cashed anywhere in the world. You pay your money and never see the bike. If they get the full price they've done well but often I think they angle for just a deposit - basically whatever they can get out of you.

Ususal thing if it looks to good to be true, it probably is.

**Zed** · 29th June 2004, 20:09

Originally Posted by Shafted

Not a good look

TradeMe themselves don't seem to mind, otherwise surely they would have rid the site of these crims long ago

...there are measures that can be taken to make this type of trading more safer. Otherwise it's buyer beware as per usual.

**White trash** · 30th June 2004, 07:49

Originally Posted by firestormer

Checked again - they've disappeared. Someone must have complained.

It's a bit

but something that always gets me (being a pedantrist and all) is that people advertise bikes and can't even spell their names. For example, there are currently 2 ZZR250s for sale on TradeMe - one is listed as a "Kawisaki", and the other as a "Kawawsaki".
Is it just too hard to look at the name label on the tank or summat?

Is what happens, is as soon as you enquire, they remove the ad. That means you cant complain.

They will only accept a Western Union payment and will tell you they will air freight! the bike to your door within 3 days for free.

I looked into a dodgy GSXR1000 for $2990 US. It would cost more than that to fly the fucker from Canada to here!

Wankers!