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    Good cop.... and no bad cop :)

    Just a quick thanks to the copper who ignored me as I overtook on the median strip in heavy but flowing (~40kmh) traffic on Mt Albert Rd on thurs evening. For some reason, the car I was overtaking ended up speeding up to 60 (dont you hate that), so I was also utilising a few more units of speed than i ought to have gotten away with....
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    Lucky you, I, however, encountered Mr. Plod aka Asshole on Wednesday.

    Apologies to all good cops, heard you exist but never met ya. And honestly don't think you exist despite ALL stories to the contrary. Posh's good fortune was most likely due to a lazy assed attitude or doughnut break. :-(

    I was pulled over on the NWestern M/W about 3-00. Evidently I over took traffic on Hobson Street while in one of the left hand straight only lanes while the traffiic in the lane to my right was stopped due to the Northern M/W being backed up. This was cited as overtaking on the left.??????

    While at it, the "officer" in the unmarked car, wearing shorts, singlet and jandles, with no proper ID, also felt that my irridium visor was too dark for the conditions and that once on the on-ramp I accellerated too quickly. Apparently the on ramp has a limit of 80kph, and I was doing 100kph before I actually entered the traffic on the M/W proper. And foolish me thought the purpose of the on-ramp was to allow merging traffic to reach the speed of the M/W traffic.

    Just to top it all off the warrent and registration tag were" not clearly visible from 10 metres as required by law". Despite them being installed by the dealer/WOF person, not me.

    Now I was not particularly pleased but said very little, being of the attitude if you can say something nice...., until the tickets were firmly in my hand. Then I let the "officer" know how unhappy I was. This just continues to reinforce my opinion of the Traffic police in this country. His only positive comment was made upon approach, that's a flash bike you're riding in such a hurry m8!

    Will I pay/fight this, not sure. It has never done me any good in the past as the crooked blue line looks after it's own. Tempted, as this will put me dangerously close to loosing my license. All previous fines were for going 15 kph or less over the limit on the M/Ws.

    Perhaps I should stop driving/riding and take up burglarly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikerboy
    ...I was pulled over on the NWestern M/W about 3-00. Evidently I over took traffic on Hobson Street while in one of the left hand straight only lanes while the traffiic in the lane to my right was stopped due to the Northern M/W being backed up. This was cited as overtaking on the left.??????

    ...also felt that my irridium visor was too dark for the conditions and that once on the on-ramp I accellerated too quickly. Apparently the on ramp has a limit of 80kph, and I was doing 100kph before I actually entered the traffic on the M/W proper...

    Just to top it all off the warrent and registration tag were" not clearly visible from 10 metres as required by law". Despite them being installed by the dealer/WOF person, not me...
    Wow, he really gave you the going over bikerboy! I can understand your anger and personal impression of the cops despite Posh's positive report.

    You'll certainly be under pressure now to "be a good boy". :sneaky2:


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    Quote Originally Posted by bikerboy
    Lucky you, I, however, encountered Mr. Plod aka Asshole on Wednesday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikerboy
    Lucky you, I, however, encountered Mr. Plod aka Asshole on Wednesday.

    Apologies to all good cops, heard you exist but never met ya. And honestly don't think you exist despite ALL stories to the contrary. Posh's good fortune was most likely due to a lazy assed attitude or doughnut break. :-(

    I was pulled over on the NWestern M/W about 3-00. Evidently I over took traffic on Hobson Street while in one of the left hand straight only lanes while the traffiic in the lane to my right was stopped due to the Northern M/W being backed up. This was cited as overtaking on the left.??????

    While at it, the "officer" in the unmarked car, wearing shorts, singlet and jandles, with no proper ID, also felt that my irridium visor was too dark for the conditions and that once on the on-ramp I accellerated too quickly. Apparently the on ramp has a limit of 80kph, and I was doing 100kph before I actually entered the traffic on the M/W proper. And foolish me thought the purpose of the on-ramp was to allow merging traffic to reach the speed of the M/W traffic.

    Just to top it all off the warrent and registration tag were" not clearly visible from 10 metres as required by law". Despite them being installed by the dealer/WOF person, not me.

    Now I was not particularly pleased but said very little, being of the attitude if you can say something nice...., until the tickets were firmly in my hand. Then I let the "officer" know how unhappy I was. This just continues to reinforce my opinion of the Traffic police in this country. His only positive comment was made upon approach, that's a flash bike you're riding in such a hurry m8!

    Will I pay/fight this, not sure. It has never done me any good in the past as the crooked blue line looks after it's own. Tempted, as this will put me dangerously close to loosing my license. All previous fines were for going 15 kph or less over the limit on the M/Ws.

    Perhaps I should stop driving/riding and take up burglarly.
    How do you know he had no proper ID,Did you ask to see it?
    Do you even know what a proper Police ID is ?
    Sounds like a tall story to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackrat
    How do you know he had no proper ID,Did you ask to see it?
    Do you even know what a proper Police ID is ?
    Sounds like a tall story to me.
    Talk about "putting the boot in" when a man is down!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikerboy
    Will I pay/fight this, not sure. It has never done me any good in the past as the crooked blue line looks after it's own. Tempted, as this will put me dangerously close to loosing my license. All previous fines were for going 15 kph or less over the limit on the M/Ws.

    Perhaps I should stop driving/riding and take up burglarly.
    And .. the desision to pay/fight ended up bieng? On what you have said, remembering this s only ne side of it, I would sure fight it.

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    the cops over here in aussie carry guns so you cant give them a mouth full but dosent stop you wanting to so how much did he shaft you for

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikerboy
    I was pulled over on the NWestern M/W about 3-00. Evidently I over took traffic on Hobson Street while in one of the left hand straight only lanes while the traffiic in the lane to my right was stopped due to the Northern M/W being backed up. This was cited as overtaking on the left.??????
    If the traffic was stationary then you can pass on the left; however, if you were in the lane that went to the southern then you've got problems. If you were coming up to the lights, then the rules are again different and you are legally not allowed to overtake on any side approaching a controlled intersection.

    However, I share your anger, the police are seldom around when the cars go from North Western to Southern on ramps mid intersection, nor when (coming the other way onto Nelson, the traffic goes through the red light 62.48% of the time.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Bob
    If the traffic was stationary then you can pass on the left; however, if you were in the lane that went to the southern then you've got problems.
    Don't see why. If BB overtook in a *separate lane* to the left, and then indicated, rejoined the NW onramp and passed more cars on the left, within the NW feed lane, which were motionless, he broke no rules. I think the 'overtaking' ticket should be struck down.

    That idiotic little comment from the cop about the iridium visor was plain twattery.

    Anyway, there is no way that I would pay those fines as they stand. BB, write a letter. Take it to court if you have to.

    Get on to legislation.govt.nz, and find the relevant sections in the Traffic Regulations 1976.

    If he didn't get a calibrated speedo reading from following you, and he didn't have a radar lock, he can't ticket you for 100 in an 80.

    The 'license and rego visible' thing? Check the regulations. If the bike really *was* breaking them, it's a fair cop. But if he was stretching the point, include a photograph with your letter, and an explanation of why it wasn't so.


    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Bob
    traffic goes through the red light 62.48% of the time
    Dr B, your statistic carries a 43.81% error rate.
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    "proper ID" - anything that said police on it, he showed me nothing, no badge, no uniform, no piece of paper with cop written in crayon on it. Niente, I was to take his word for it. And we all know how honest they are when they aren't exposing themselves to children, strangling mentally challenged guys in the backseat of cop cars or shooting an unarmed guy in the back several times from twenty metres while cowering in fear. Given the recent story in the paper about non cops running around in cop cars one would expect some kind of ID, especially in an unmarked car and out of uniform.

    "tall story" - That is exactly the attitude which makes me of two minds about challenging it. The cops are NEVER wrong, NEVER rude, NEVER assholes, etc. They are a special unique type of person who is always right, acts fairly and honestly except when they don't, but then there is always some special "reason" which makes it ok then too.

    The lane I was in said NW M/W on it. The lane directly to my right said N M/W on it. I never changed lanes since turning on to Hobson from Victoria Street. Just continued straight to the on-ramp.

    The light was green but the traffic going on to the northern M/W was unable to proceed through the intersection due to traffic backed up. I foolishly followed the other cars in front of me through the intersection. I suppose I could have stopped in my lane until the three other lanes going in different directions were able to proceed.....yeah that is the thing to do in future.

    It isn't the amount of the fine(about $600-00) nor the cost of fighting it, I'm lucky in that I can easily afford it. It is the principle of the thing, something that doesn't seem to count for much in this country. After all if the head cop responsible for the speed enforcement policy can get caught speeding and no one says he should quite.....thats like the Minister of Health bribing doctors to get bumped up the waiting list or the PM signing her name to something she didn't do.....or right that happened.

    And that's all I'm going to say about this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikerboy
    one would expect some kind of ID
    Did you ask to see any?


    Quote Originally Posted by bikerboy
    It is the principle of the thing, something that doesn't seem to count for much in this country. After all if the head cop responsible for the speed enforcement policy can get caught speeding and no one says he should quit
    Why should he quit? Perhaps 'this country' values pragmatism more than principle. Particularly when the people bleating for 'principles' often do so hypocritically.

    It may grate against some of the more straightforward moralisers on the forum to hear me say this, but a person's ability to enforce policy has nothing to do with whether or not they follow it perfectly themselves. And one would hope that *ability* was the primary reason for a head cop's appointment.

    If we're going to get started on slurs about national mindsets, I think you picked the wrong place to be coming from, BB
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    Grabs a and sits back a waiting the fall out from this last posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fastford111
    the cops over here in aussie carry guns so you cant give them a mouth full but dosent stop you wanting to so how much did he shaft you for
    So they shoot you if you mouth off??

    No freedom of speech in Aussie?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Posh Tourer :P
    Just a quick thanks to the copper who ignored me as I overtook on the median strip in heavy but flowing (~40kmh) traffic on Mt Albert Rd on thurs evening. For some reason, the car I was overtaking ended up speeding up to 60 (dont you hate that), so I was also utilising a few more units of speed than i ought to have gotten away with....
    I think you should do the right thing and hand yourself into the nearest Police station,you know you have done wrong,broken the law and endangered your own life as well as countless others.You are probably drunk right now and contemplating suicide - don't let me stop you - but for the sake of the little children,confess and take your punishment like a man,you ride a BMW after all,I doubt if any BMW rider now or ever has done such a thing.If you haven't presented yourself to the Police by monday - I will! I will do a citizens arresst to rid our community of scum such as yourself.Just imagine what could of happened if I was coming the other way in my Pajero - I drive on the median strip at all times,this is my right as a SUV driver,and although a BMW has more substance than a Jap sports bike I'm sure I could of done a bit of damage,maybe I'd have to back up for another go,but the result would be the same.

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