$70 ex gst Websites

**TerminalAddict** · 17th October 2006, 21:38

interspeed.co.nz has pricing and shit there.

The resellers get accounts at $10, and can charge what ever they like

traffic is hardly ever audited

**R6_kid:Me** · 17th October 2006, 22:50

How extensive are your photoshop/image manipulation skills? And how much back support are you offering once the website is online (updating etc)?

**Monorail** · 18th October 2006, 07:41

Originally Posted by R6_kid

How extensive are your photoshop/image manipulation skills? And how much back support are you offering once the website is online (updating etc)?

pretty good eh. got photoshop at school. it's on my to buy list when i actually get a couple of customers. I got gimp at him so croping, resizing, grayscaling, tranparency etc etc is all good.
I'm more than happy to keep updating the site for a nominal charge

**MSTRS:Me** · 18th October 2006, 07:55

A point that no-one has mentioned...you say $70 excluding GST...unless you register with IRD, you can not add or include GST. And unless you are turning over more than $30,000pa, there is no requirement to register. Until you have to, the onerous paperwork every 2 or 6 months is just a pain. Besides, who would willingly be a tax collecter who does not get paid for doing the job?

**Monorail** · 18th October 2006, 09:10

Originally Posted by MSTRS

A point that no-one has mentioned...you say $70 excluding GST...unless you register with IRD, you can not add or include GST. And unless you are turning over more than $30,000pa, there is no requirement to register. Until you have to, the onerous paperwork every 2 or 6 months is just a pain. Besides, who would willingly be a tax collecter who does not get paid for doing the job?

Hi, I am planning to register for GST as because I am not sure how many sales I am going to have, but am going to have numerous expenses I've decided to register voluntarily. That way, if i go bust, i haven't lost as much money as I can claim gst on all equipment and software etc

**MSTRS:Me** · 18th October 2006, 10:52

Originally Posted by mafu1

Hi, I am planning to register for GST as because I am not sure how many sales I am going to have, but am going to have numerous expenses I've decided to register voluntarily. That way, if i go bust, i haven't lost as much money as I can claim gst on all equipment and software etc

Fair enough. As long as your eyes are open.

**Monorail** · 18th October 2006, 12:45

Originally Posted by MSTRS

Fair enough. As long as your eyes are open.

thanks for the concern though

**TerminalAddict** · 18th October 2006, 13:05

Originally Posted by mafu1

Hi, I am planning to register for GST as because I am not sure how many sales I am going to have, but am going to have numerous expenses I've decided to register voluntarily. That way, if i go bust, i haven't lost as much money as I can claim gst on all equipment and software etc

and if you go bust or decide not trade anymore you have to pay all the gst back on all equipment and software etc

**Ixion** · 18th October 2006, 13:16

No, that is not correct.

If you are registered for GST and wish to cancel the registration (typically because you have ceased trading) you must pay GST on the DISPOSAL VALUE of any assets remaining (assuming that the disposal value is a fair market price) . (I think you may be able to elect to account based on book value instaead, not sure about that)

So if you go bust or stop trading you can either
a)sell any business assets, pay GST on the proceeds of the sale
b) keep the assets and account for their value in GST inputs.
c) Simply NOT cancel the GST registration (typically, you may keep it up because you might want to resume tarding in the future) , and file a zero return each period.

Any rate, you DON'T have to repay all the GST you've claimed. But, remember, if you are registered for GST you will have to PAY GST on all you business revenue.

**Monorail** · 18th October 2006, 13:46

Originally Posted by Ixion

No, that is not correct.

If you are registered for GST and wish to cancel the registration (typically because you have ceased trading) you must pay GST on the DISPOSAL VALUE of any assets remaining (assuming that the disposal value is a fair market price) . (I think you may be able to elect to account based on book value instaead, not sure about that)

So if you go bust or stop trading you can either
a)sell any business assets, pay GST on the proceeds of the sale
b) keep the assets and account for their value in GST inputs.
c) Simply NOT cancel the GST registration (typically, you may keep it up because you might want to resume tarding in the future) , and file a zero return each period.

Any rate, you DON'T have to repay all the GST you've claimed. But, remember, if you are registered for GST you will have to PAY GST on all you business revenue.

exactly. and it will be a bit that i save in the end. so hey.

**mstriumph** · 18th October 2006, 14:04

Originally Posted by mafu1

you could indeed. u'd provbably get sued by the other party however

unless she's paris hilton ....... in which case she'll hit you for a cut of the profits ..

**Busy** · 18th October 2006, 15:11

You are finding it hard to start out now, so to earn 30k a year (minimum) is going to take a lot of work, but even so you can only claim a percentage, like 10% of a pc is $100 (if it was a grand), it's not worth it as you also have to pay PAYE and ACC and other crap no matter how much you earn.

You can claim a bit of your home (if you work from home) but as you wont have any overheads the claiming gst idea is a start up one only and you will find it is actually costing you.

I do web design (more database design) from home, my accountant runs my business at a loss (like most small businesses) and am not GST registered. Talk to an accountant, there are more perks at running the business at a loss than being GST registered.

To get a portfolio, do some freebies, go to local companies and offer them a site (try keep them small) and this will help you two fold, one it will give you a portfolio (and teach you dealing with customers) and two will get you more work as the biggest assest you will have is word of mouth.

Web design is more than photoshop, tablets ... all you need is a plain jane pc (ideally using dialup) and notepad (to create the sites), use w3c.org to validate your work, psp is good enough to create eye candy and there are heaps of free ware aps out there to make your life easier (ifranview is one I use a lot)

For webhosting, NZ is way over priced, I pay $10 US a month for 1 gig of space (reseller account) and although my main work is not web design I do it and offer hosting (from $10 nz a month or $100 a year up front) for friends and times those prices by 5 for customers.

Make yourself up a business plan, run it past an accountant for input, if you dont like what they say get a second opinion. Don't try run before you can walk ... take advantage of those training wheels.
Good luck

**Monorail** · 18th October 2006, 16:36

Originally Posted by Busy

You are finding it hard to start out now, so to earn 30k a year (minimum) is going to take a lot of work, but even so you can only claim a percentage, like 10% of a pc is $100 (if it was a grand), it's not worth it as you also have to pay PAYE and ACC and other crap no matter how much you earn.

You can claim a bit of your home (if you work from home) but as you wont have any overheads the claiming gst idea is a start up one only and you will find it is actually costing you.

I do web design (more database design) from home, my accountant runs my business at a loss (like most small businesses) and am not GST registered. Talk to an accountant, there are more perks at running the business at a loss than being GST registered.

To get a portfolio, do some freebies, go to local companies and offer them a site (try keep them small) and this will help you two fold, one it will give you a portfolio (and teach you dealing with customers) and two will get you more work as the biggest assest you will have is word of mouth.

Web design is more than photoshop, tablets ... all you need is a plain jane pc (ideally using dialup) and notepad (to create the sites), use w3c.org to validate your work, psp is good enough to create eye candy and there are heaps of free ware aps out there to make your life easier (ifranview is one I use a lot)

For webhosting, NZ is way over priced, I pay $10 US a month for 1 gig of space (reseller account) and although my main work is not web design I do it and offer hosting (from $10 nz a month or $100 a year up front) for friends and times those prices by 5 for customers.

Make yourself up a business plan, run it past an accountant for input, if you dont like what they say get a second opinion. Don't try run before you can walk ... take advantage of those training wheels.
Good luck

will keep that in mind, but seeing as it is only a small after school business I dont think much of that is going to apply to me.

**SPORK** · 18th October 2006, 17:50

Ok, no offence meant, but your design skills, as seen from that sample site you showed, seem to be pretty uh, poor. I'm not claiming I'm the best, because I know I'm far from it, but I think you should do some reading about good design.

Start by reading sites like www.alistapart.com , www.stylegala.com and such.

I'd also suggest learning how to code to current standards as well. Learn how to code in advanced CSS and such.

As for needing a portfolio, before we had a portfolio a friend and I managed to secure a client or two. www.llc.co.nz was one of them. We're two 16/17 year old kids, so it's not like you need to be old or anything.

But anyway, what I'm trying to say is that just do a bit of reading up and practice first.

**Monorail** · 18th October 2006, 18:05

Originally Posted by Soul Bruddah

Ok, no offence meant, but your design skills, as seen from that sample site you showed, seem to be pretty uh, poor. I'm not claiming I'm the best, because I know I'm far from it, but I think you should do some reading about good design.

s'all good man. I think i'm gonna focus on web hosting, and offer web design at the same time.