$70 ex gst Websites

[John Banks]

Web design is 80% artistic ability. The skills you really need to polish up on are design and graphics if you want to stand out. I'd suggest taking a couple of graphic design classes if you can... though I don't think that would really be necessary.

My best suggestion I can give you is to get an A3 scrapbook, a box of pencils and a ruler. Make your website on paper, then use The Gimp and notepad to turn it into a website. Don't start on the PC, it just gets in your way.

[Monorail]

Web design is 80% artistic ability. The skills you really need to polish up on are design and graphics if you want to stand out. I'd suggest taking a couple of graphic design classes if you can... though I don't think that would really be necessary.

My best suggestion I can give you is to get an A3 scrapbook, a box of pencils and a ruler. Make your website on paper, then use The Gimp and notepad to turn it into a website. Don't start on the PC, it just gets in your way.

not a bad idea.

[SPORK]

not a bad idea.

And untill then, I suggest you do some good sites for free, because frankly I don't think that a site like that one you posted is worth $70 (plus GST, apparently)

[Ixion]

What was wrong with it? (Question, not a clop)

Seemed OK to me. Everything worked, simple, straightforward. No flashy shit to slow things down or break, everything worked in Firefox, it was easy and intuative to navigate. Nothing complicated . sort I of site I like to go to

Bearing in mind that $70 is only an hours chargeout, I don't reckon you can expect too much. I would want to design it code it test it in an hour.

[Biff]

Invest in a copy of Dreamweaver mate. It's a piece of pi$$ to use and makes your sites look like a pro designed them.

My copy cost me $4. I have my doubts whether it's an original......although it does say Macromedia on the case. I'm throwing it away tomorrow, because I felt guilty.

Tui Ad coming......

[SPORK]

What was wrong with it? (Question, not a clop)

Seemed OK to me. Everything worked, simple, straightforward. No flashy shit to slow things down or break, everything worked in Firefox, it was easy and intuative to navigate. Nothing complicated . sort I of site I like to go to

Bearing in mind that $70 is only an hours chargeout, I don't reckon you can expect too much. I would want to design it code it test it in an hour.

I was talking from a purely design perspective. It just has this incredible geocities vibe going on.

Biff - I've only had bad experiences with Dreamweaver. The code it spat out was incredibly clunky, and to do advanced stuff was next to impossible. But each to their own.

[TerminalAddict]

Bearing in mind that $70 is only an hours chargeout, I don't reckon you can expect too much. I would want to design it code it test it in an hour.

and here's the big gotcha

customers don't see websites in "the amount of time it took"
So charging by an hourly rate forces many customers to try it themselves.


I spend hours and hours and hours working with my sites, and they probably don't have that much value, but they are my sites, and its my time
For customers, I make very sure right at the begining that they will be charged by the hour, and if they don't pay, I spend the extra time and undo anything I have done.
10 years of this shit has taught me it is very easy to get ripped off as a software developer/ coder

The other less agressive path is to agree on a fixed price to start with, after spending lots of time clearly identifying the outcomes, and what will be delivered for that price, anything over and above the agree goals is charged at an hourly rate.

[Sketchy_Racer]

I recon that its just awesome that a young falla is getting out there and actually doing it!!

Its takes a lot of courage, and there will always be people that say na you wont be able to do it...

But stick at it and it will be all good!! ..

nice going Matt!!

[SPORK]

I recon that its just awesome that a young falla is getting out there and actually doing it!!

Its takes a lot of courage, and there will always be people that say na you wont be able to do it...

But stick at it and it will be all good!! ..

nice going Matt!!

Yeah, definately give it a go. If you keep plugging away at it it does work out. But I definately suggest reading up a bit first.

It took a while to get mine and my friends web company up, but we've made some good money off it and have a couple more projects in the works now.

(And RG, is it still awesome if that young falla is ME? Or am I still a tool?)

[Monorail]

I recon that its just awesome that a young falla is getting out there and actually doing it!!

Its takes a lot of courage, and there will always be people that say na you wont be able to do it...

But stick at it and it will be all good!! ..

nice going Matt!!

thanks man, it means a lot

[John Banks]

I'd just like to point out that the reason professional web developers charge $120/hour is because it only takes them a couple of hours to do the website. I know a professional webmistress who just takes a template, fills it out, and presto, a high quality website in half an hour.

[Monorail]

I'd just like to point out that the reason professional web developers charge $120/hour is because it only takes them a couple of hours to do the website. I know a professional webmistress who just takes a template, fills it out, and presto, a high quality website in half an hour.

i got a couple of templates, but my app is a couple of years olds so i can't get any new ones. $400 for the latest additions.. usd

[John Banks]

i got a couple of templates, but my app is a couple of years olds so i can't get any new ones. $400 for the latest additions.. usd

A template that comes with the program is never going to do you any good. What I mean is she had pre-designed these herself, so she knew exactly what they did and could customise them in a flash.

[Monorail]

A template that comes with the program is never going to do you any good. What I mean is she had pre-designed these herself, so she knew exactly what they did and could customise them in a flash.

these aint too bad. 30 ea however http://estore.websitepros.com/nofshop/Detail.bok?no=503