New clutch installed, now there is now pressure on the lever

**Postie** · 2nd November 2006, 07:50

I originally thought I had munted a selector fork or the selector drum on the VFR recently, until I took the clutch off and discovered that 2 of my friction plates (of which there are 10) had been stripped of the friction material completely, not just worn but gone, so it looked like a steel (pics to come later) and another 2 had stripped just one side each. So that looked pretty positive that it was my problem, I checked the oil for any other bits of metal or engine debris and all that was in there was friction material from the clutch rings.
So last night the clutch was put back in according to how it was taken out and with guidance from the manual, but when the clutch is pulled, there is nothing to pull against, its like the cable is not even hooked back on to the clutch pin on the left side of the bike (which it is, before the smart comments come out)
I was hoping that once it had oil and got the engine started, it might use the oil pressure to push against, this was a long shot and it missed, still nothing.
So any suggestions? has anyone come across this before?

**Motu** · 2nd November 2006, 07:55

Did you put all the parts you had left over in the bin? Empty the bin and sift through the debri until you find a small ball or pushrod....you are supposed to put the parts back in as you found them,not leave them out because you can't figure out where they go.

**Postie** · 2nd November 2006, 08:05

there were no left over parts, I even took it out, checked it again and put it back in, not a bolt, plate, bearing, cir clip or anything left over. 10 plates and 8 steels came out, 10 new plates and 8 steels went back in with the 3 diaphragm springs blah blah blah........ the clutch has not been micro-lightened.

**Motu** · 2nd November 2006, 08:20

I have no idea of the bike you have,but most have some sort of actuator adjustment,a screw and lock nut....you adjust there before you fit the cable.Some have a rack gear,it's possible to get it in the wrong place.Show us a picture of the actuating mechanism and we might be able to see where it could go wrong.

**terbang** · 2nd November 2006, 08:29

Is it a Cable or Hydraulic release?

**terbang** · 2nd November 2006, 08:34

Had a bit of a surf and it looks like its hydraulic. Perhaps it needs bleeding..?

**Ixion** · 2nd November 2006, 08:44

Here's a part fiche of the clutch section of an NC 30. Check that each item shown is reassem bled (especially no 26).

**vifferman** · 2nd November 2006, 08:52

If it's a hydraulic clutch, what almost always happens (on Hhhhhondas at least) is that the clutch slave cylinder wanders out slowly while you're not looking, and you get an air lock. Mucho bleeding required, particularly at the banjo connection at the top and by the slave cylinder at the bottom. You can aid this by pulling the lever in halfway and tapping gently on the reservoir and banjo gently with a small spanner or the like. At the bottom, undo the banjo and let the fluid run through a bit while getting someone to watch the reservoir and top it up. Then pump and pump and pump....

**Postie** · 2nd November 2006, 09:20

I didn't know it had a clutch slave cylinder. Where would it be?

**Motu** · 2nd November 2006, 09:21

Ah,more information is always helpful - how come it never comes from the original questioner?

**Postie** · 2nd November 2006, 09:41

Originally Posted by Motu

Ah,more information is always helpful - how come it never comes from the original questioner?

I didn't know it was hydrolic, I mean I know its hydrolyic but I didn't know it had a slave cylinder. I still don't know where it is. I'm looking through the manual now, trying to save a picture to show you, but I can't see any mention of a slave cylinder

**MSTRS:Me** · 2nd November 2006, 09:52

Originally Posted by Postie

I didn't know it was hydrolic, I mean I know its hydrolyic but I didn't know it had a slave cylinder. I still don't know where it is. I'm looking through the manual now, trying to save a picture to show you, but I can't see any mention of a slave cylinder

If it is hydraulic, then it has a master cyl attached to the clutch lever and a slave cyl at the engine end. It will be the unit that the hose attaches to, adjacent to the clutch itself.

**vifferman** · 2nd November 2006, 09:55

Originally Posted by Postie

I didn't know it had a clutch slave cylinder. Where would it be?

Attached to the outside of the countershaft sprocket cover, on the other side of the en gine from the clutch housing. On the same side as the clutch lever.
At the end of the hose going from the left-hand handle handle handhandklebar.
Where the clutcher levererererrrr is.
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