Tl1000s?? or vtr1000???

[n0regret5]

just commenting that the VTR's have a shit load of torque and lifting the wheel is done with ease...and i have found the power from idle is just fine.....you just need to (as with any bike) repsect the gear your in for the revs your pulling......i'll admit mine sounds like a mower running over a rock if i accelerate from 40-50km/h in 5th or 6th but thats typical of a vtr....but any more than 1/4-1/2 or so on the throttle in 1st 2nd 3rd and its pointing the wheel to the sky......but then every person to thier own....

oh yeh i get you..but it was the first bike i'd owned that put out more than 43bhp..haha! also it was the most expensive and didn't wanna risk dropping it (i'm good at that), but i found once i switched the sprockets and chucked on a new chain it wheelied like a maniac from lights..great fun. still learning to wheelie, too..

[Defiant]

yeah its all good....everyone has the bike they like.....lol...for me its the firestorm, for the guy down the road its his.....(trying to say it...)....HhHhHh....H..Hyosung.....there got it out....LMAO....

[geoffc]

Add another vote for the VTR. I've had mine over 3 years and still love it.

[Rogue]

Rode both of them when new. TL had the stronger engine but I wasn't happy with the riding position, seemed to perched on top of it. VTR better riding position. I agree dont forget the SV. Horses for courses M8 Its whatever you like

[dipshit]

Found a page that goes into some detail the difference between the TL and the SV1000 engine.

http://motorcycledaily.com/01july03_...uki_sv1000.htm

"Although the SV1000 utilizes the same engine as prior 1000cc v-twin Suzukis (the precise displacement is 996cc), plenty of new technology was thrown at this motor for use in the SV. With roughly 300 changes, Suzuki describes the 90 degree v-twin in the SV as "thoroughly evolved and refined".

Compared to the TL1000S, intake valves have gone from 40mm to 36mm in size, providing a big boost in low-end and mid-range power without much sacrifice in top-end power. The fuel injected SV is fed by Suzuki's dual throttle valve system controlled by a 32 bit CPU.

This powerful computer brain keeps.. (blah blah blah). ...Cam profile is also changed from the TL1000S, improving power output in the low-end and mid-range. Basically, Suzuki's goal for the engine was to smooth power output, without sacrificing much from the top-end of the TL1000S. Suzuki provided the comparison dyno chart illustration to show that they came pretty close to achieving their goal -- greatly improved low-end and mid-range, smoother transition from low-end to top-end, and only a minor loss of top-end peak power.

Suzuki also made countless changes aimed at reducing weight in the engine, such as going to single valve springs (the TL1000S had double valve springs), aluminum valve spring retainers, smaller cam chain (which allows a related reduction in the width of the intermediate gear and idler gear), forged pistons (versus the TL1000S cast pistons), tempered conrods (30 grams lighter), etc."