"I'm such a slow rider" - Yeah right!

[DEATH_INC.]

I'm fucken fast. And don't mind saying so.

I guess I am too.But every time I think I'm getting really fast ,I ride with someone and they kick my ass ......so then I guess I'm slow again .....F**k it,I'll just stick to doing wheelies .....

[Two Smoker]

I guess I am too.But every time I think I'm getting really fast ,I ride with someone and they kick my ass ......so then I guess I'm slow again .....F**k it,I'll just stick to doing wheelies .....

LMAO, and we all know your the king of wheelies.....

Well what can i say..... My lap times are in the low 1:20's (both dry and wet) and if i get below 1:20 i will consider myself to be fastish, this is the time that Nicko set on the RG150, and i know hes bloody fast......

If you cant find improvements in your riding skill, then you have reached the limit and will not go any faster... I have shitloads of improving to do, for instance Scroter said that i was smooth, where i think i can be a hell of alot smoother......

I dont have my best rides by myself, i have my best rides with faster riders (only a couple riding at the same time) as they improve me...... I also dont want to be big headed and say "yeah im the shit and fucking fast" if i was doing 60 second lap times around puke on a 600 or in MotoGP then i would consider myself to be fast.....

But yes, MR and KK are fast, and both are reasonably fast on the track (well KK is bloody fast considering the hunk of shit he's riding lol), where Hoon is fast on the track but takes it easy on the road.....

And Andrew Mate your fast

[Milky]

Thinking you are a very good rider or acting like a racer on the road is the first step to disaster! The more chances you take, the harder the world will try to present you with a hazard to match your ego and then it's plain down to luck! You are a damn fool if you confuse luck with skill....

I ride on the road. Ego has no place on the road...

Paul N

Couldn't have said it better myself - motorcycles can kill you without warning, and all the fast, smooth, knee down action wont make you able to avoid a car on the wrong side of the road or diesel round a blind corner, even a tractor not seeing you and pulling out... Me for one will be waiting until I have the time and money to get into bucket racing before I push myself much further. On the road I enjoy the scenery, the flowing motion inherent in motorcycling, and say a quiet prayer every time I make the commute to uni/work unscathed in the morning
I have no desire to be considered a fast rider, and definitely dont consider myself as such. I know that somewhere out there, there are people much quicker than me. If, by some stroke of luck, this isnt the case, then my next stop is Moto GP

[Wenier]

the way i see it for me in my car or bike is i am an average rider if someone says im fast i shrug it off as i dont want to get big headed and cocky cus then ill think im the shit and ill go out and fuck it up. Now where is the fun in bein told ya fast then crashing by pushin it that bit more. Jus go wit wut u feel is safe and that is generally fast but there will always be someone else out there who is faster!

[Paul in NZ]

I consider myself a mid-fast rider, but most of all I ride to a speed at which I have most fun.

Exactly....

It's when you try to ride at a speed that others find 'fun' that it all comes unglued.. This is the reason us Guzzi riders always ride alone....

(everyone else falls off at walking pace)

Paul N

[FROSTY:Me]

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These days, I have been saying, "I am not that fast" or "I have been real slack and I need to train hard". This is only for the track. It is true that I am not that fast on the track and I need to put a real hard effort into it if I truly want to become fast (I don't need encouragement from anyone either, telling me that I am fast for the track because on the track, results matter and it is always crystal clear).

Edit: I am wrong about the encouragement bit. It is always nice to get encouragements. I really do appreciate all the nice things that all you people have said and it actually really does help. Thank you

Encouragement is always good mate -especially when it comes from someone you respect :spudbooge
Constructive criticism rocks too --like I was getting from Dougie
"You're slow exiting #$$# corner - try going wider on the entry "
Sometimes its easier to assess when ya aint in the hot seat
Reading this thread has made me aware of a character flaw in me -I can't take a compliment -If someone says I ride well Im waiting for the "Nah joking actually you ride like shit"

[Big Dog]

I think modesty in such a dangerous sport is also what keeps you alive and in the sport long enough to be considered good as the know it alls never learn from those around them.

If you open your mouth too often it will eventually write a cheque your body can't cash.

Most of the self proclaimed fast riders I knew ten years ago have not ridden in at least 8.

[Big Dog]

Also I think it takes real knowledge to accept you have a lot to learn.

I think it takes real confidence to admit it.

[Kwaka-Kid]

I'm fucken fast. And don't mind saying so.

WT - this thread was about bikes, not your problems with the wife, but its bold of you to admit such a problem

Anyway moving on.. (hehe sorry WT!) alot of good info has been thrown here.. and very interesting info... With more thought, id like to say can we please scrub KK from everywhere it says fast!.. all things are relative, in this instance.. im looking at fast over years experience... Ive been riding street bikes what? 3 years! TS has barely been riding 6 months and is faster/if he doesnt claim that just as fast!!, Shaede has been riding barely 6 months and just as fast! PuTMan has been riding the same time and just as fast! And you too andrew, have not been riding so long and from what i see are just as fast (but like putman, are somewhat limited by worn machinery)... Ive also had exp scince i was like what? 10 or 11 on the dirt, most weekends, so whats that say 8 years riding exp? and theres a sub6month old thats just as fast?

Now you go figure whos fast, or at least going to be fast.
tell yah, at 6months road experience i was still busy putting around commute style, prolly much hte way milky thinks he is - but i dont lie when i say milky would have been faster.

And like others say, its hard to judge, what u cal lfast etc etc, but the way i reason TS/Shade/Andrew as being fast is by their limited exp yet meeting my judgement of fast...

Lastly id like to say we ought watch Putman... definatly on the worst bike out there(250 dragging a cylander, untill dad/i balanced carbs the other night - and shit me one cylander was blocked off!)... keeping up with the front runners on the way back from taht ride? and ill admit - at least by my standerds that wasnt a slow ride up front on the way back... and The kid hasnt even had his first spill - and doesnt look to be in for one? Good on yah nick, just keep it upright, i reckon this means u got a large buffer of speed still left! cant wait to see you on the track sometime"

[Mongoose]

Exactly....

It's when you try to ride at a speed that others find 'fun' that it all comes unglued.. This is the reason us Guzzi riders always ride alone....

(everyone else falls off at walking pace)

Paul N

Yeah, well, errrm, Mr Paul in NZ, all can say is if you ride at walking pace you should be a skinny boy by now cause that is some big strides you take at your *walking pace*

[Kwaka-Kid]

If you open your mouth too often it will eventually write a cheque your body can't cash.

Shit... Mine never closes though

[Big Dog]

[QUOTE=Kwaka-Kid]

If you open your mouth too often it will eventually write a cheque your body can't cash.QUOTE]

Shit... Mine never closes though

Yeah but when this is a known quantity it is less of a problem. Eg none of us would take the risk on presenting one

[Posh Tourer :P]

Telling yourself you arent fast is one of the best motivations for improvement.... Thus those who are *driven* to be faster (ie believe/ say they are slow) are going to be faster than if they were happy with their speed/thought they were fast. This is probably only a part of it though.

Logo, did you have anyone fast to ride with when you were putting around? I know I putted around for a long while, as there was no-one for me to compare myself to... Once chris started riding I've managed to push myself a little further, and as he improved, I had to! I dont ride a fast bike because it would only lead to me giving more money to the govt... and this was convenient and practical. I'll push the bike I have to it's limits for fun occasionally, and thats enough for me. Looking for new challenges, such as gravel roads, also keeps things interesting.

I consider myself average, cautious and relatively experienced, but I can see many areas where I could be far better more consistently....

[Two Smoker]

Well ive had a good long think about it, and yep i still reakon im slow.....

[Kwaka-Kid]

hey martin - ummm... i guess not? i rode scenic drive with dad on his GS1000 a number of times and a few westie streets, but only prolly a total of 4-5times ever... untill KB, i was just a commuter. And dad ALWAYS hung back with me, like fully kept me well within sight in his rear views, so i guess i never saw how much faster they could go - untill more recently (since i been KB/ possibly racing) and now im like "yeah well u didnt exactly show me that shit before now did yah!" Swear he hinderd im learning processes, or maybe just kept me alive for longer.