Kahui twins' father out on bail

[slimjim]

yup this is a real fucked up one, me got no prob's on who, just want the "RIGHT" ONE, or TWo if there is more, Vaseline................. fuck that a quick spit .......doesn't deserve any lube,,,

[APPLE]

there to soft mate?the judge is a soft cock,it seems you spend longer in jail for drugs,than you do for murder.And wen you do,go to jail?you get a blimmin vacation.

[98tls]

there to soft mate?the judge is a soft cock,it seems you spend longer in jail for drugs,than you do for murder.And wen you do,go to jail?you get a blimmin vacation.

Agree on the first bit apple but cant on the second...anyone thats been to jail and says its a vacation is either brain dead...spent there time in protection wing and brain dead or simply hasnt been there and watches to much television........

[Colapop]

Judges are hamstrung by laws that favour the crims. There are a lot of hardworking cops out there that find these bastards and then the judges don't have the power to keep the fuckers locked up long enough.

[chanceyy]

well didn't get a chance to catch up on the news today .. although i can not say i am suprised that he has been released out on bail.

do i like it though .. errrr no guess i have the same sentiments as everyone else.

but I sincerely doubt he is the only guilty one .. the rest of the dozen should be in the slammer along with him

I just hope in all of this, those two lil babies get justice & they are not forgotten


RIP - Chris & Cru

[spudchucka]

If there were credible witnesses, I'd agree with you, but this case doesn't have a that does it? None of us knows who know what..... we just need a whipping boy, it seems.

The police who investigated the matter know the details of the evidence against him, so will the court by now. You, me and the rest of the world don't need to know.

[Grahameeboy]

I guess th Law will never win...................at the end of the day this guy has not been found guilty and to me that is a fundamental protection that WE are all entitled to.........if he is guilty then his 'Free' time is numbered and he knows that so in the end justice will be carried out an that is what is important.

As for juctice for the babies etc. Well it is memories (albeit short) not justice that matters. To be seeking justice is a 'self' thing and does not change grief and loss.

[Clockwork]

..., so will the court by now. You, me and the rest of the world don't need to know.

May be thats why he is out on bail.

For the record the "None of us knows who know what....." was my reference to "you, me and the rest of the world"

Its only to be expected that that Cops (yourself included) would consider him guilty ahead of a successful prosecution, if they haven't already decided on his guilt then they shouldn't be prosecuting. But if we were all to take that view then we might as well close all the criminal courts.


yeah, I know..... it sounds like a good idea. (.... Until you're the one in the firing line.)

[Brett]

Agree on the first bit apple but cant on the second...anyone thats been to jail and says its a vacation is either brain dead...spent there time in protection wing and brain dead or simply hasnt been there and watches to much television........

Well i have never been in, so obviously there is very little weighting to what i say, but that new prison they have just built has underfloor heating, LCD T.V's, playstations, an awesome Gym, Broadband and the list goes on! Not saying it is a vacation, but if i am gonna be locked up in anything, i want it to be there.

[Skyryder]

So he gets to dip his wick again. Father more kids, get convicted then parole time he pleads forgivenss so he can be with his kid. Call me a cynic if you will but this bail is all bullshit. Bet if he was a cop killer he would not be out. But then maybe he has done us all a favour................two less gang recruits. Like I said I'm a cynic...................just been round too fucking long to see this any different.


Skyryder

[RT527]

is that such a bad thing?

Um sounds like you know all the Facts and hes guilty as sin...what if he didnt do it?.All of you are basically saying he did it before hes gone to Trial.
Not saying he didnt do it , But I thought everyone had a right to innocence untill Proven Wrong.

I agree tho he shouldnt be let out on bail.

[Ixion]

The police who investigated the matter know the details of the evidence against him, so will the court by now. You, me and the rest of the world don't need to know.

Yes we do. That is why it is a fundamental point of English law that justice should be administered IN PUBLIC. Because that is what prevents corruption by judges and juries. Justice in secret is no justice. And remember that corruption can be more than a matter of used fivers in a paper bag.

Lord Justice Hewart's famous aphorism

" it is not merely of some importance but is of fundamental importance that justice should not only be done, but should manifestly and undoubtedly be seen to be done."

seems particularly here since, as some may recall, it not only originated in the appeal of a motorcyclist against a dangerous driving conviction, but also the grounds for appeal was a possible conflict of interest (a weasel term for corruption, that) on the part of an officer of the courts.

FWIW, personally I do not see a problem with the decision to allow bail in this case. He is still unconvicted , is unlikely to flee or go into hiding, and there seem no reason to suppose that his being at large will present any danger to the public.

[Paul in NZ]

Crumbs

Common sense? I can't see Peter Hughes lasting long in his job.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3862886a10,00.html

[spudchucka]

Yes we do. That is why it is a fundamental point of English law that justice should be administered IN PUBLIC. .

Public forums like the courts, yes.

Public forums like the media and KB, which are very heavy on conjecture and very light on facts, no.

[Ixion]

Yes. Because if the courts , or police , be corrupt, the only way that they will be brought to account is by public examination of their conduct. In just such forums as the media and KB. Which is no doubt very inconvenient and annoying for them, they would I'm sure much prefer all such matters to be dealt with in private away from the prying and censorious eye of Joe Public. But that way lies tyranny.

What is the point of saying that justice should be done in public if noone is permitted to know of it, or comment thereon.