Criminal nuisance conviction for roading contractor after crash

[Funkyfly]

Silly me, I thought this was all because you cared about your topic ?


Firefight

Go read ALL the posts and you will see why i do care.

People please, if you are going to post a comment read all the posts first.

[Firefight]

Go read ALL the posts and you will see why i do care.

People please, if you are going to post a comment read all the posts first.

Ah yes, I have read all the posts, The bit that confused me was you question re how to get on the most post per day thingy ? It caused me to wonder about your real agenda. Anyway, I guess I have HELPED YOU GET A COUPLE CLOSER TO YOUR REAL GOAL.

F/F

[Funkyfly]

Ah yes, I have read all the posts, The bit that confused me was you question re how to get on the most post per day thingy ? It caused me to wonder about your real agenda. Anyway, I guess I have HELPED YOU GET A COUPLE CLOSER TO YOUR REAL GOAL.

F/F

Whats confusing about that? i was simply wondering.

If my agenda here was to hit the "top 10 posters of the day" list i would be most appreciative.

However its not. Sorry to disappoint you Firefly.

So you really didnt help at all, shame that.

[denill]

The HB Today Editorial on the Aprillia's off:
http://www.mytown.co.nz/story/mytsto...78274&type=nzh

Cheers
Bill

[Funkyfly]

The HB Today Editorial on the Aprillia's off:
http://www.mytown.co.nz/story/mytsto...78274&type=nzh

Cheers
Bill

I thought what was fairly well written, apart for the fact the writer seems to laud Chris as a peoples champion.

But certainly his last comments tend to fit in where im coiming from that -

"it is to be hoped that Mr Parkin's court case will give councils and their contractors a wake-up call, and remind them of the need for intelligent use of road-signs and their obligations to motorists; not only to remind them when there are roadworks, but not to remind them when there are not"

The case happened, cant change that now, lets hope some good can come out of it.

Interesting heading it had "Small win for all motorists" denoting that its not just bikers who are susceptible to accidents on unmarked roadworks. Effectly removing the threat to local govt by bikers alone to those reading his article. Which is true, its not just bikers councils will need to be worried about, as i said in an earlier post CARS AND PUSHBIKES would also pose a risk to councils if they have an accident on unmarked roadworks.

The kneejerk reaction by some of our members is quite surprising -

Merv - "Do we really want anti-bike bylaws - if you accept no responsibility and push them that's what it will come to."

Jim - "Chris Parkin is an idiot for pushing that through the courts because this outcome will set a precedent and give an excuse to local government to legislate in many, many ways against motorcycles and motorcyclists."

Jim - "It would be easier from a politcal and cultural perspective to ban motorcycles than fix the issue of lazy contractors. You would, guaranteed, get more support for banning bikes than enforcing ISO9000 level standards on roading contractors."

Guys this isnt just about bikes!

[Funkyfly]

Every accident you have is your own fault. There is ALWAYS something you could have done to avoid one.

Jim, Have you seen the photo of the recent accident involving a cop and doctor in taranaki taken from the air? Horrible sight but....

It happened on a bridge in the rain.

The cops car aquaplaned, bounced off the guardrail on the bridge and crossed the centre line crashing head on into a subaru.

Now keeping in the relms of reality can you please explain to me how the driver of the 4WD is at fault for being in this horrible accident?

[Mongoose]

Jim, Have you seen the photo of the recent accident involving a cop and doctor in taranaki taken from the air? Horrible sight but....

It happened on a bridge in the rain.

The cops car aquaplaned, bounced off the guardrail on the bridge and crossed the centre line crashing head on into a subaru.

Now keeping in the relms of reality can you please explain to me how the driver of the 4WD is at fault for being in this horrible accident?

Simple Pimple, he should have seen the water on the road, in the other lane, should have knwn that the approaching car might aquaplane,should have know it might bouce off the guard rail and into his lane, so he should have slowed down.

[Funkyfly]

Simple Pimple, he should have seen the water on the road, in the other lane, should have knwn that the approaching car might aquaplane,should have know it might bouce off the guard rail and into his lane, so he should have slowed down.

Both parties could see the "rain", however it can be impossible to pick out a puddle, esp when its raining, If the cop couldnt see it how could he?

Judging by how people were driving in that rain here in taranaki i can say its most likely the good doctor had indeed slowed down.

Even slowing down doesnt mean the accident would have been avoided

[Mongoose]

If the cop couldnt see it how could he?

But he should have and should also accept the responsibility for not seeing it Or so we ae lead to believe anyway

[Funkyfly]

But he should have and should also accept the responsibility for not seeing it Or so we ae lead to believe anyway

Dude i was travelling in this rain at 50kph, it went from normal rain to really heavy in a seccond.

I can tell you straight the chances of him seeing it were zilch.

We had 2 people who were involved, one was a highway patrol cop, a seasoned officer, NEITHER of them saw it, what makes you think anyone else could?

[merv]

Guys this isnt just about bikes!

Exactly and that is why I was asking how long before we see additional restrictions on our freedom due to the crash of the Asians in the 4x4 on the beach.

I love how you think the members here are knee jerking and yet you still seem oblivious to the fact that bureaucrats knee jerk and quickly bring in more oppressive laws that restrict the freedoms of people like us no matter how many simple examples I describe to you.

[James Deuce]

Jim, Have you seen the photo of the recent accident involving a cop and doctor in taranaki taken from the air? Horrible sight but....

It happened on a bridge in the rain.

The cops car aquaplaned, bounced off the guardrail on the bridge and crossed the centre line crashing head on into a subaru.

Now keeping in the relms of reality can you please explain to me how the driver of the 4WD is at fault for being in this horrible accident?

Up to him to decide.

[Funkyfly]

Up to him to decide.

Cop out.

What if the doctor thinks (and quite rightly in my opinion) that he wasn't at fault?

Are you still going to insist that you know for a fact that he must be mistaken because "Every accident you have is your own fault" and there is no way someone could ever be innocent?

[Mongoose]

Cop out.

What if the doctor thinks (and quite rightly in my opinion) that he wasn't at fault?

Are you still going to insist that you know for a fact that he must be mistaken because "Every accident you have is your own fault" and there is no way someone could ever be innocent?

With you in the Cop Out comment FF

[Motu]

Out of the bounds of this thread - and I am cetainly not judging the cop who was killed - but how many times has anyone aquaplaned here? I never have,and I've driven some real shitters with bald tyres too fast in some heavy rain,I've hit some real deep spots and it felt like it slowed the car down as I went through,but never,ever aquaplane.A cop car would have good tyres I presume - but to aquaplane a cop car off the road at 100kph,I'd a thought it was time to slow down.Ok,I wasn't there,have no idea of what happened,but aquaplaning is a high speed condition,for it to happen at low speed sounds a bit suss.