Double Yellow Lines and Overtaking Lines - At Bends

[Terminated]

In which case I feel sorry for all you Noff Eylanders.


(Notice the lack of 'r' in the word 'Noff' - up there you hardly use that letter, down here, to compensate, we add them to words that don't even have the letter 'r' in their composition)

Now being an Aussie,,,,wait for it buckbuck, you are going to cop it for sure, its our vowel sounds that give us away isn't it Roo,,,iiiiissssssnnnnniiiiiittttt.

Back to the roads I recall the run from Rotorua out to Tauranga [admittedly in a cage] is absolutely dreadful for trying to pass,,,,let alone for the timber trucks.


Heads Up and Enjoy

[Lou Girardin]

Yellow lines are for those too stupid to know how to drive. And they're designed with the overtaking power of a Lada in mind.
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[Drum]

They used to be, and maybe down Souff still are. But up here the Insane Yellow Paint Maniac has gotten loose in a big way and painted double yellows continuously , without a break, for 20km at a time. No, I am not exaggerating. It is absolutely absurd. SH2 is almost solid yellow lines from Bombay to the Thames turnoff, and SH1 is now completely yellow lines from the hill going out of Hatfields Beach untill the far side of the hill after Wenderholm. Any relevance the lines had is totally lost.

That section of SH1 past Hatfields was identified as a section of road with a particularly high crash rate.

The speed limit was dropped from 100 to 80 and the no passing lines were installed in a desperate attempt to get people to slow down and stop overtaking. There are no safe overtaking opportunities on that ridge, apart form the passing lane of course, and yet people were still giving it a go.

Interestingly, a particularly high percentage of the crashes (around 75%) involved high powered rear wheel drive vehicles.

[Ixion]

...the no passing lines were installed in a desperate attempt to get people to slow down
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And there is the nub. Yellow lines were originally used to indicate that overtaking was hazardous. Now they have been turned to an entirely new purpose, as a means to force the flow of traffic down to the speed of the slowest driver.

Which they do. Yesterday I , and about 50 cars , followed in frustration a very old driver along that stretch of road. He never exceeded 50kph and on any corners would slow to 30kph. But noone could get past him because of those yellow lines. Some were able to pass on the passing lanes but they are so short that the number who did was less than the number that added to the rear of the queue.

This use of yellow lines is an abuse of their purpose and risks their becoming totally disregarded.

[Dai]

I blame the Welch. It's probably some cunning scheme to steal sheep

We are looking for some that dont run away at the sound of a zipper.

Have you heard that the sales of velcro closures have skyrocketed in 'der tidy land"

[Drum]

And there is the nub. Yellow lines were originally used to indicate that overtaking was hazardous. Now they have been turned to an entirely new purpose...........

Youre right. The idea is to provide visual cues that you are in a high risk environment.

Other cues include installing extra wide and/ or profiled edgelines, narrowing lanes, flush medians, etc

[McJim]

In which case I feel sorry for all you Noff Eylanders.


(Notice the lack of 'r' in the word 'Noff' - up there you hardly use that letter, down here, to compensate, we add them to words that don't even have the letter 'r' in their composition)

Speak ferr yerrsel' big man - Ah'm fae Awrklund an' I've got plenty o' R's (I've got plenty o' Arse as well but I'm on a diet to sort that out..)

The advantage we do have as bikes is that we can overtake cars where there is a solid yellow line so long as we don't cross the yellow line. But this has been said before in other threads.

[Ixion]

Youre right. The idea is to provide visual cues that you are in a high risk environment.

Other cues include installing extra wide and/ or profiled edgelines, narrowing lanes, flush medians, etc

Those are all good, And should be used more often. Along with judiciously placed bumps, potholes, wallows etc. It has long been a contention of mine that roads have been made too good. The quality of the roads and vehicles has now exceeded the quality of the drivers.

But using double yellow lines for that purpose is IMHO a no-no. Because, unlike the other things , which are helpful and war, the double yellows forbid. If they actually wanted to WARN drivers "Hey, this bit is dodgy as, think again", which would be a GoodThing, they could use continuous double broken yellow lines (quite possible, it used to be done)