View Poll Results: Change the 250 Law?

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  • Yes, ride any capacity, any hp/kg ratio.

    9 9.57%
  • Yes, do it like in Oz, ride up to 500cc and under a certain hp/kg

    51 54.26%
  • No, the law is good as it is

    29 30.85%
  • No, I wouldn't be able to resell my ZXR for $6,500

    5 5.32%
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Thread: Would you change the 250 law?

  1. #31
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    You have to remember the old Keep it Simple rule and you couldn't get much simpler than it is.

    How are the boys & Girls in Blue ment to police how much Power your bike has, as of yet i have not seen a Dyno that will fit in the boot of a Patrol Car.

    In all honesty i think the law is alittle to easy and should be changed and made even harder.

    law should be <250cc 4 stroke

    It should be made compulsary to do something like the RRRS programe before you are aloud to sit your Restricted.

    Get rid of the 70km

    Raise the driving age to 18

    Increase the Learners Period to 12 months

    Allow you to ride a bike <650cc while on restricted

    Time Period on Restricted should be 12 months and again you would need to complete an advanced rider programe before you can even think about sitting your full.

    I am also a firm believer that these sort of restrictions should be put into place for cage drivers as well i.e. on a lerners you can't drive anthing with a turbo and must be <1600cc, complete compuslery driving programes between leaner - Restricted, Restricted - Full etc etc

    Now i know there is always execptions to the rule we are always going to have the red neck hill billy from Invercargil thats going to say "my ma & pa let me ride from the time i was a youngn so i had a way of getting to the padock to shag Baaaabara why should i have to follow the rules i know how to ride" or i'm 6 3" and 200kg, to be honest why should we give a rats arse how long you have been chasing the sheep on your bike and there are big 250's on the market that would suit a tall person, as for the 200kg's go on a fucken diet.

    One last thing all the rider training programes should be at our own expence i.e NO Government funding. Now for the students that say But we can't afford it, you always have the option to catch the bus or get a bycycle or even better try a pair of bartabullets.

    end of rant

  2. #32
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    The rules are fine as they are.

    A GN250 has more power than what is needed on NZ roads.

    The Driving age needs to stay where it is. People start work or uni at 16 easily, and they need a licence of somesort to get themselves there.

    they do need to take away the 70kph limit on learners. It's dangerous


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    The Aussies have got it..!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamgee View Post
    it should be a truely graduated system, whereing, learners licence must ride 250cc single or twin cylinder 4 strokes, and restricted can ride anything up to 400cc
    I agree with this, I have seen learners on bikes that are simply too big for them and its their riding that suffers.
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  5. #35
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    Yeah I'd say age should still stay the same, I wouldn't want to give up riding til I'm 18! Thats only 3 years, then I'll be married, and there goes bike for ever!! (pt)

    I think if 250 2 strokes were illegal for learner/restricteds, it'd still be on my list for a weekend twisties bike after I get my full. Anyone else concur?

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    I like the law as it is but the 18 month time period for the restricted licence is too long IMHO.

    In terms of general riding I don't think I've really improved since the first 8 months just because theres nothing more to learn (the track is a different story).

    Then again I've had 10 years on the road and 2 driving before I got my first bike. I don't recommend starting on the road with time on a bicycle or car.

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    Married at 18? Now that's ambition.
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    Gosh, you are a quick learner. I've been riding (and driving ) for 40 years, and I still have heaps to learn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
    Married at 18? Now that's ambition.
    No, no, married at 21.

    Oh what the hell, yeah married at 18. Got anyone in mind?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    Gosh, you are a quick learner. I've been riding (and driving ) for 40 years, and I still have heaps to learn.
    Lol good call.

    Yeah although I would like a new bike, I enjoy pushing the FXR to its limits, and testing how far I can go. Had the front tyre squealing on me today while attempting a stoppie from 95km/h. That disc was REALLY hot when I got home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mynameis View Post
    And who would find out the actual HP of a bike and how??

    Like all bikes run at the max horsepower stated and literally every dealer in the country has a dyno run machine and it's like $5 to get one done.

    This prevails the current sensible option which is in place now which is cc rating.

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    Eligible Motorcycles in the category 0-260ml

    All models with the exception of:

    Make Model

    Suzuki RGV250
    Kawasaki KR250 (KR-1 and KR1s models)
    Honda NSR250
    Yamaha TZR250
    Aprilia RS250

    :spudbooge

    And yet, under NZ law, I'm not allowed to ride a 300cc Royal Enfield Diesel... Hahahaha....

    I'd be riding a DR650 if we were under the AUS rules. I oculd have bought it for about $4000 and it would have lasted me a good 6 years of riding. Ah well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremysprite View Post
    Got anyone in mind?
    It's your ambition.
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    Would I change the 250 law...

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  14. #44
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    should be like a car, ride what you can afford
    I lost my licence and i havent riddin all month!!!- YEAH RIGHT

  15. #45
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    wouldn't you be a bit worried about some rich gimp on a gixxer 1000 trying to overtake you down the straights, or even worse round a corner?

    And if you can look at people like skidMark, who ride crazy on a 250C, what would they do on a more powerful bike???

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