One rule for police

[Brett]

January two years ago, i was coming through the karanghake(sp?) gorge just before paeroa. At the very entrance, a truck had rolled on a corner. All traffic was being diverted, however i somehow slipped through the gaps.

I had to park up and watch the action for about 20 mins before there was a gap i could squeeze through.
When i did, a cop car was on the other side of the gap, and we were both on one of the very first corners of the gorge.
I took off normally, the cop was right aside me and gave me a cheeky look.(I was driving my modded Nissan 200sx) and he took off in a hurry.
I took the chance that he was wanting to play games and followed suit. Sure enough, he was just taking the chance to thrash thorugh the empty gorge.
I did not have too much troubl ekeeping him at all, i fact I got to have a bit of fun letting the rear end step out in a few smokey displays!
He was probably going 130kph, i was touching a fair bit(maybe another 30 odd kph) over that when chasing him.

Got to the end of the gorge, and he flicked a hand and pulled over for me to pass. He stopped, i carried on my merry way, at the legal limit of course, and we both had had a bloody good time!

My deduction, sometimes cops just wanna have fun

[Wenier]

Yea brett they probably do occasionally. But i agree wit titanium about the convert op my arse.

I followed an unmarked car with no siren or lights at all from porirua on-ramp to kapiti at about 140k most the time, little more at times. So i followed made a quick trip, the only part i didnt follow was when he passed a truck on double yellows where ya actually cant see.

Just stupidity by them i think.

[The Pastor]

http://www.netlaw.co.nz/crime.cfm?PageID=283

If it was after 6pm follow him home and BUST HIS ASS!

[Brett]

Yea brett they probably do occasionally. But i agree wit titanium about the convert op my arse.

I followed an unmarked car with no siren or lights at all from porirua on-ramp to kapiti at about 140k most the time, little more at times. So i followed made a quick trip, the only part i didnt follow was when he passed a truck on double yellows where ya actually cant see.

Just stupidity by them i think.

Agreed, i have seen them do some very dumb things as well. The thing that pisses me off, is that neither the cage nor either of my bikes are slugs, and any half decent overtake can easily throw you over the speedlimit, and then the buggers ping you for speeding, even if it is a perfectly visible, smooth awesome road.
Lets be honest, 140kph in a sports car with modded brakes or on a modern sports bike is not a huge speed.

[lukelin250]

140kph is cruising, 180+ then its speeding

[MD]

On My Way Home This Afternoon I Followed A Police Car North On The Motorway It Was Travelling At 140kph With No Lights On And As High As 180kph Were It Could Best Ride Home For A Long Time

More importantly. Did he catch the person who ran off with all your full stops?
Next you are going to say the open road limit in NZ is below 140kph - yeah right. Although at 180 he was close to exceeding the limit by 40 and losing his licence.

[Toaster]

I understand that they are required under policy to activate the lights if exceeding the speed limit. If you feel agrieved, then lay a complaint, but you need the rego and time etc. It may lead to a PCA. Cops are subject to the same road rules and can only speed if it is justified.... i.e. urgent duty... like getting Uncle H to the rugby on time.

[Brett]

Speedie is right, Police do not have to have their lights and siren on to go over the speed limit however you have to be careful how your doing it - if you crashed it and you were found at fault you would gete raped by the bosses and most likely fired.

There are loads of reasons we dont use them such as alerting offenders we are coming, enviromental reasons such as horses going by (though this would be rare), preventing futher injury to a victim if an offender reaslied we were coming, so burglars etc dont see our lights or hear us coming etc etc. As i say public safety goes first and you do have to be careful how do you it as speedie will also tell you.

Most of the cars up here now have AVL (GPS) and the comms operator knows what speed you are going and why you are going to it.

Makes logical sense IMO.

[Lou Girardin]

It was more lilely to be just one doughnut left in the box.

[spudchucka]

What falls under a covert mission?

If we told you it wouldn't be covert anymore.

[Edbear]

Most of the cars up here now have AVL (GPS) and the comms operator knows what speed you are going and why you are going to it.

So they know if you're parked at Wendys or Burger KIng, (or somewhere more suspect). Killjoys! And we think our bosses look over our shoulders! Fancy your boss knowing exactly where you are and what your doing every minute of the day?All I have to do is fill in a daily running sheet and send it in with the paper work each week!

[spudchucka]

http://www.netlaw.co.nz/crime.cfm?PageID=283

If it was after 6pm follow him home and BUST HIS ASS!

A little knowledge can be dangerous......

Is speeding on a motorway punishable by three years or more imprisonment?

Is it night time after 6:00PM? Not under the crimes act, it isn't night time until after 9:00PM.

But speeding is an offence under the land transport act not the crimes act so what constitutes night time under that act?

You'd want to be sure of yourself otherwise it would be your arse getting busted for assaulting a cop.

[ManDownUnder]

On My Way Home This Afternoon I Followed A Police Car North On The Motorway It Was Travelling At 140kph With No Lights On And As High As 180kph Were It Could Best Ride Home For A Long Time

Na mate - same rules for all.

Plate place and time. Ring the station, get someone senior on the phone and let them know an official complaint is following. Explain you have a natural cynicism about Police enforcing their own but expect this will be followed up.

Have them contact you to confirm what's been done.

There are knobs working in the Police too... not many, but they attract their fair share - as will any industry.

I've had exactly the same happen to me (cop ran a red light - very bad example). One of the guys on here picked it up for me and got back regarding what happened.

No mess, no fuss. Good outcome and no need to make a song and dance of it.

That's my experience anyway

[Swoop]

There's a new Dunkin' Donuts opening at Orewa?????

Why do the cops always get this information first!!!

[Ixion]

A little knowledge can be dangerous......

Is speeding on a motorway punishable by three years or more imprisonment?

Is it night time after 6:00PM? Not under the crimes act, it isn't night time until after 9:00PM.

But speeding is an offence under the land transport act not the crimes act so what constitutes night time under that act?

You'd want to be sure of yourself otherwise it would be your arse getting busted for assaulting a cop.

Speeding per se isn't an arrestable offence anyway. And even if one argued that such speed constituted dangerous driving, which is, if the cop was acting in execution of his duty - oh boy one would be in big trouble. Assaulting a police officer, impeding a police officer in execution of his duty, wrongful arrest , the list goes on.

What's the problem, anyway ? So a cop knocked off a few miles at a decent speed. Considering that the well nigh universal policy on this site is that speed , in itself , isn't dangerous, why the angst when someone in a uniform does it? Sour grapes, maybe, that he can have a better chance of getting away with it ?

Cop running a red light without his siren on, that's maybe a bit different. But they're human too, if he's busy steering the car, talking to comms about what he's going to , maybe he just runs out of hands to flick the siren switch going through an intersection where he can see there's no oncoming traffic.

Lighten up chaps.