The lies They tell us

[idleidolidyll]

so you're more of a pitcher than a catcher huh?

it's nice to return the favour once in a while though don't you think?

ahh tis perhaps your youth and elevated testosterone levels that lead you away from talk of motorcycles and into shallow discussions of gay encounters.

no son, i'm a grandad and fully resigned to the fact that my john thomas is for pissing through not for sexual gratification

[madandy]

Kawasaki claim 215Kg's for their ZX14R right?

Autocar Magazine test a bike or three every month and weighed one...it came in wet at 256Kg.Interestingly they state that's 54Kg heavier than their tested wet weight (202Kg) for a ZX10R wich Kwaka claim weighs only 174Kg!

That's just from a quick peek in last months Autocar magazine...

so yeah, try finding that weight from a tank of gas, some oils(all of which are lighter than water so 1L is less than 1kg and coolant...

I get the point that it'd be nice to see all the claimed figures tested with the same standards and also the point that those numbers & how they're measured mean little to someone looking for a bike that suits them and at the end of the day a riders skill is going to be the single biggest factor in that bike's performance in the real world.

Please learn how to multi quote so you dont have to make post after post individualy replying to peoples' comments...it makes the thread long & pointless.

With your tit for tat playground like cock length contest [trying to impress your opinions on one another] of off topic nonsense you guys made the last few pages a waste of time

Andy

[avgas]

road bikes? what use are they on NZ's goat tracks?

Dem's fightn words You obviously never saw me on my old RG or GB? You think driftn on the road with road tyres is cool.....try road tyres round an orchard
Couldnt afford a decent trail bike at the time.
Can now - but i love the fazer to much on the road

[Lou Girardin]

I don't think any manufacturer quotes wheel hp figures. The power ratings are taken on an engine dyno when the engine is developed. Wheel hp is far too variable and open to litigation.
The whole hp power thing is over-rated anyway, I had a bike 33 hp down on what it should have and didn't get left behind in the twisty's. Torque is what fires you out of bends.
Most road riders rarely use all the power.

[Edbear]

I don't think any manufacturer quotes wheel hp figures. The power ratings are taken on an engine dyno when the engine is developed. Wheel hp is far too variable and open to litigation.
The whole hp power thing is over-rated anyway, I had a bike 33 hp down on what it should have and didn't get left behind in the twisty's. Torque is what fires you out of bends.
Most road riders rarely use all the power.

I hear ya man! When it comes to power, mine's full of it...! And light, too!