Here is a document with practial advice on group riding. It's from the Master Strategy Group in the US. It offers great advice, especially catering to those who have never been on a group ride before.
Hardcore Biker
Here is a document with practial advice on group riding. It's from the Master Strategy Group in the US. It offers great advice, especially catering to those who have never been on a group ride before.
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The leader of the group should be someone who is consistant and will maintain the correct pace for the entire group through-out the ride.
Faster riders should move to the lead and put some space between the leader of the main pack before doing wheelies and such, dropping back is OK too but sometimes a wheelie gets very quick and the gap closes too quick.
The group should pass other road users slowly and respectfully, if urgency to pass is presented do so as fast as you can and be sure to make room for anyone who requires space on the other side... they maybe in more of a hurry than you!
In the twisties dont expect faster riders to sit behind at your nana's pace, expect them to go ahead and have their own fun, they will wait for the pack at the end of the fun bits, the leader of the pack should maintain a consistant pace suitable to the entire group.
If you get left behind by the pack... dont worry, as mentioned before they will wait for you, maintain your speed or even slow down a bit... you will not be shamed by being the slowest (unless your on a cruiser amoung sports bikes and even then just for fun)
If a bike in front looks like he's moving over so you can wheelie past, make sure he's not texting on his mobile phone or something first, and unless your moving to the front of the group there really is no need to pass anyone.
Just some things that came to mind
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Mostly about riding multi-lane highways.
I'm sure others have plenty of ideas tho up till now I think KB rides are a pretty loose affair.
Do we need any guidelines ?
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Maybe, for open road use but the twisties would have to be open to how much fun your after... I dont know...Originally Posted by Warr
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All your points just indicate a poorly constructed group.The leader of the group should be someone who is consistant and will maintain the correct pace for the entire group through-out the ride.
Faster riders should move to the lead and put some space between the leader of the main pack before doing wheelies and such, dropping back is OK too but sometimes a wheelie gets very quick and the gap closes too quick.
The group should pass other road users slowly and respectfully, if urgency to pass is presented do so as fast as you can and be sure to make room for anyone who requires space on the other side... they maybe in more of a hurry than you!
In the twisties dont expect faster riders to sit behind at your nana's pace, expect them to go ahead and have their own fun, they will wait for the pack at the end of the fun bits, the leader of the pack should maintain a consistant pace suitable to the entire group.
If you get left behind by the pack... dont worry, as mentioned before they will wait for you, maintain your speed or even slow down a bit... you will not be shamed by being the slowest (unless your on a cruiser amoung sports bikes and even then just for fun)
If a bike in front looks like he's moving over so you can wheelie past, make sure he's not texting on his mobile phone or something first, and unless your moving to the front of the group there really is no need to pass anyone.
Just some things that came to mind
If you end up doing any of the above, never ever invite that particular mix of riders on a group ride ever again.
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LOL... maybe your right, we dont have a good track record... but we're try'n boss... we're try'n rrrreal hard.
My points indicate the majority of KB groups... with fast and slow riders.
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LOl - Spelling's not bad there Cletus, errr, DingDong
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More group riding techniques HERE
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what about when there is a big group break it down to smaller groups of 3-4 bikes within the bigger group and spacing them at 1-2min intervals with faster or more experienced at front progressing to slower or less experienced at back and also a back up group of experienced riders to follow as the last group , or is this how you already do it? (not sure as i have not been on kb group ride yet)
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Depends on the scope of the ride RCTL. I've organised two really big rides, neither of which had incidents and they were basically broken down in to three groups of fast, normal, and cruisy.
Each group had leaders and sweeps to keep some boundaries in place, clear instructions on routes and meeting points (which one lot ignored), and the leaders of each group were very clear on the pace. A few people were clever enough to change groups at the meeting points if they felt like it too.
There's a massive amount of info on group riding out there (see the links above) which people need to read and understand before going on a group ride. The fact remains that riding in large groups is bloody dangerous, especially if people aren't on exactly the same page. Some times as ride organiser you have to listen to what people are chatting about and then perhaps splinter the groups even more so that you don't end up with groups that have some very stressed people trying to keep up with a pace that may be relaxed for the majority of the riders in the group.
Mental flexibility is very important in group riding. Way too many people go on group rides and get vastly out of their depth, trying to keep up with mates who are comfortable at a different pace. You have to be able to look at yourself, your riding, how stressed you are feeling and try and find a niche to fit in. If you are riding at more than 5/10ths on a group ride, you're pushing too hard. If you get it wrong you are going to hurt some people around you.
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Welcome to KB RCTL,
KBer doesnt really have any guidlines for this... but each individual group might.
The basics: dont tailgate, staggered formation (if you feel comfy doing it) and generally dont be a dangerous fool around others.
One thing to note is most groups dont expect the staggered formation to hold through corners and twisties... single file like.
You should hook up with guys 'n' girls in your area and see what they find works for them.
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We will do in about 3 months when I get Krayy's Wiki plan rolling.
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I have a question... I'm still a learner, never riden in a group ride before, and was thinking of doing the 'wairarapa toy run' next weekend. Should I attempt this? Do I sit at the back.... being a slowpoke?
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There is this also http://www.rideforever.co.nz/road_aw...up_riding.html
I do have the dvd they produced about group riding. I am happy to burn a copy (Im sure they wont mind) if anyone wants one.
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Quote from above post
Mental flexibility is very important in group riding. Way too many people go on group rides and get vastly out of their depth, trying to keep up with mates who are comfortable at a different pace. You have to be able to look at yourself, your riding, how stressed you are feeling and try and find a niche to fit in. If you are riding at more than 5/10ths on a group ride, you're pushing too hard. If you get it wrong you are going to hurt some people around you.
I know it does not happen every time BUT
Why Not just stop organising these bloody things, if you and a mate want to go on a ride together just go on a dam ride, why is it so important to ride around in big groups, you can all meet some where if that is what it is all about and all be well and healthy
To many people are crashing on them, to many people are getting hurt on them
To many riders are pissing off the Cages that you hate you any way
Maybe it has nothing to do with me as I do not come on these rides, but ever since I joined this board, I keep reading about this and that crash on a group ride, they are fuckin dangerous because
Kiwi males ( In Paticullar) are not going to let there mate beet them! It is a part of being a kiwi male
It is just like finding a fire and taking a bottle of petrol to it
Sorry to be a boring wanker but, Responsibility! Some one starts a thread on a group ride, Great, all kinds of people turn up, Great, a lot of theses riders are un known to each other and a lot of them want to be the MAN! Is it not easier to just Stop organising them and then you can all sleep well at night knowing that you have helped keep your brother or sister safe and unhurt and alive?
I am sure you can all have as much fun riding without 30 other bikes around you, or is it really that important to have these rides, and that the high average % will all but guarantee more crashes and injury and possible more loss of life, based on the last 12 months of things I have read?
Sorry- I cannot show you links and facts and statistics to back this up
Sorry- Maybe some times I should my mouth
Sorry- I have just seen 2 guys leave us because of this exact kind of organised thing
Sorry- for being a boring old wanker
Sorry- for caring about riders lives
PS- I know all of you respect each other as bikers, I also know all of you would do nothing intentually to hurt another- but perhaps what I have just said may keep some one alive and unhurt, Perhaps
Ride hard, but ride safe People
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