Honda VT250F

**hXc** · 13th December 2006, 16:07

Originally Posted by Insanity_rules

Good deal! If it doesn't rattle too bad then buy it. A set of cam chains isn't that expensive or hard to do and you'll get a really reliable bike. The 250 market is pretty expensive.

What he said. If it don't rattle much, get it. It's a good bike to get through the initial lisence stages, and it's cheap.

**McJim** · 13th December 2006, 16:07

For $2,000 it's not too bad - cam chains seem to be the main thing - if money was no object I'd reccommend the VTR 250...but then I would wouldn't I?

Welcome to KB.

**Les** · 13th December 2006, 16:17

I had an early model (like the black one in Hillbilly's pics) back in the late 80's and it was a great little bike. The hydraulic clutch was awesome.3
I was told back then about supposedly weak top ends and valve trains, etc. but to be honest I had NO trouble with mine at all. In fact, other 250's around me didn't show the reliability that I had.
Mine took me well over 30,000k's and even did a complete 5-week around NZ trip no hassles. Cruised at open road speeds easy as with enough to spare for overtaking and stuff.
My experience with this bike was great. As good as any bike I've ever owned.

**Wasp** · 13th December 2006, 16:52

Originally Posted by Insanity_rules

Good deal!

not as good as yours aye

dont worry, it didnt cost me much so i dont mind

although mind you we have no idea how much that vtz has done......

Originally Posted by hXc

It's the same engine as a Spada, and as far as I know, the same engine as the VTZ, and I know Spada parts are readily available, why wouldnt the F parts be readily available?

nope, all very similiar but there were 3 versions of the engine, first in the vtf 2nd in the spada and 3rd in the vtz

note that most spada vtz and vtf parts dont mix, mechanical parts are easy to get but things like speedos arn't

also note that you only need either a spada or vtf manual to know what your doing

**gamgee** · 13th December 2006, 19:16

Originally Posted by hXc

You can talk some shit, can't you? It's the same engine as a Spada, and as far as I know, the same engine as the VTZ, and I know Spada parts are readily available, why wouldnt the F parts be readily available?

I'm actually speaking from experience, so does that mean the vtr are sacks of shit as well... it's the same engine configuration, but are you sure it's exactly the same engine?? I doubt it, honda stopped making the vt250f as it was costing them too much money to build...
it's well documented that there was a problem with the oil pump, and $2000 is a rip off price for one with that many km, you shouldn't pay more than about $1500 for one, and even then you shouldn't be buying one

**gamgee** · 13th December 2006, 19:18

Originally Posted by Les

The hydraulic clutch was awesome.

yeah the hydraulic clutch was probably the best part of that bike, I loved that little feature too!

**gamgee** · 13th December 2006, 19:20

Originally Posted by Wasp

nope, all very similiar but there were 3 versions of the engine, first in the vtf 2nd in the spada and 3rd in the vtz

and there we have confirmation, hxc you must be feeling a little silly right now, maybe an apology is in order?

**Wasp** · 13th December 2006, 19:54

no apoligies needed so long as we all agree that seem the vtz uses the 3rd revision it therefor must be the best

**T.W.R** · 13th December 2006, 19:59

Originally Posted by gamgee

and there we have confirmation, hxc you must be feeling a little silly right now, maybe an apology is in order?

Depends because you three are talking about bikes that were about when all of you were still in nappies

The VT250F had four versions, the 83 VT250F (released 82), 84 VT250FE (rarest & best looking), 86 VT250FG (called the limited edition) all based on the same 35hp engine
And in 84 there was a VT250Z made (naked VT250FG) albeit with a milder state of tune motor at 32hp, and that state of tune is the same as the VTR (spada) when it was introduced in 97.
All on the same bore/stroke dimensions of 60 x 44.1mm & 11.0/1 compression ratio.

All the earlier ones suffered from the typical Honda issues of the time, but if you got a good one you got a beauty. But by now most have been through cowboys hands and had the best taken out of them. If your going to buy buy wise & check the bike over thoroughly prior to purchase.

**gamgee** · 13th December 2006, 20:04

I had the vt250fe

didn't really expect him to apologise, more just rubbing it in that I was right and he was wrong haha

**hXc** · 13th December 2006, 20:06

Originally Posted by T.W.R

and that state of tune is the same as the VTR (spada) when it was introduced in 97.

Argh! My eyes! VTR and Spada are nowhere near the same!

Spada was made in 1988 and 1989 only, has about 40hp (at the wheel) and it's a 6 speed, 90 degree V twin. It's full horsepower (not restricted), where as the VTR has considerably less hp, is a 5 speed box, but is still a 90 degree V twin. The engine is not even based upon the same thing.

**hXc** · 13th December 2006, 20:09

Originally Posted by gamgee

didn't really expect him to apologise, more just rubbing it in that I was right and he was wrong haha

I won't apologise, but not because I'm an arrogant prick, because that's what I though. I must have been mis-informed, thank you to Wasp for the confirmation.

And Gamgee, the VTR's are a sack of shit

Spada

**Sketchy_Racer** · 13th December 2006, 20:19

hahahah 40hp at the wheel.....

Oh i LOVE over enthusiastic Hp figures.....

Spada = Pretty

VT, VTr = Getting too old

VTR (new) = Creme of the litter