Accident - losing licence?

[lb99]

And riding an unregistered bike, too? You're a worry, mate!

ermm, thats when I was young and dumb, I could never afford a rego cause I was always paying off fines, stupid huh, I paid like $25pw to the courts for about 8yrs, although I only ever accumulated 80 points so far in my life (curently on 0)

[lb99]

Well unfortunatly for you if it wasnt registered then it shouldnt have been on the road , and if it wasnt on the road then there might not have been an accident......But having said that , it`s not that good for police public relations if the cop is going to be that mean about it all, and if ya ask me I`d say hes biased towards bikes...bit like when theres an accident between a truck and another vehicle ,CVIU will arrive and do there darndest to find something wrong with the truck even if you did nothing wrong and the other party is fully responsible.

you are right, and I paid the fine, but the way he went about it was a bit stink, like having no rego caused the accident,

[sAsLEX]

I would think it has something to do with somehow unless the fairies fractured it.
Losing your license for six months would take something fairly serious,surely.

Heal up quick kid.

yeah like 141 on a direction separated 6 lane high way......

Im sorry to be so blunt, but thas a typical wingy English attitude. She fucked up and hurt someone, should she get away with it? What about if it was your kid, would you just say to her, "Oh well, guess you learnt your lesson", or would you want her to make right any way she could? What is it with people thinking that if they fuck up, they shouldnt be punished? Bet she wont bloody do it again will she.


Somehow, this story confirms my theory on the attitude of the English (Not all mind you)

I am sure most would be pretty cut up about injuring a kid in a simple accident, then to have your life fucked because some over zealous cop decides "oh you mustn't of learnt your lesson here's a charge" and you then loose your license for 6 months?

The point I make is look at the guy who killed Liam Ashley, 20 odd and has 89 convictions. Does charging someone make them behave any different? I bloody doubt it.

Most peoples moral convictions affect how they behave rather than punishments inflicted after the incident, like I am sure FF's mate learnt allot from his ordeal along time before the cops decided to charge him, and what did they acheive?! They lowered public opinion of themselves once again.

[lb99]

Bloody heck, should have read right through the posts before posting my previous....sounds like neither of you should have been on the road lol.

more so the cage driver than you for a small piece of paper that doesnt change how you drive or the condition of the car.

now I really do think that cop was just being a tax collector and an arsehole.

yeah, it was that only that one cop, I have to admit when I spoke to the invesigating officer a few days later, he made it clear they were going to nail the driver to the wall.
youre right about the rego of course, but the in circle I was in that was "normal" no reg, no wof ,usually disqualified, we were rebels who paid lots of fines, and had heaps of fights with the cops, I am glad I am out of it now, I eventually had to move towns, cause I just couldn't clean my act up

I went back a while ago, and some of those guys are still in the same rut, but 10 years older, and still have nothing

[ROBMW]

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[ROBMW]

[QUOTE=grego;864127]There are countries in europe where one gets fined virtually regardless of circumstances.
The phrasing sounded something like:"""Failing to keep control of a motorvehicle""""

My Brother binned his R1 around a corner approaching a village in the UK doing a little more than the speed limit! He was the only one hurt but a road sign took a beating. The police fined him for reckless riding, or words to that effect. The council charged him for a new sign "......blah blah welcomes careful drivers"! and to top it off he later had to pay the cost for the call out of the ambulance that carted him off to hospital!!

Admit no liability. Maybe the old " a dog ran out in front of me" trick has it's uses to give the cops a laugh for 5 mins!

[slowpoke]

.... first thing the first cop on the scene did was give me a ticket for no rego, while I was being loaded into an ambulance, even before he had established who caused what, or even spoken to the other driver. as soon as he stopped his car he went and checked out the plate on my bike.

Doesn't some of your rego supposedly contribute towards the cost of the ambulance?
Maybe if you'd declined said ambulance the rozzer would have declined to issue said ticket? As you chose to use the ambulance it's only fair that he try to recoup a portion of the costs on behalf of those who DID pay their rego and unwittingly subsidised your care.......

[lb99]

Doesn't some of your rego supposedly contribute towards the cost of the ambulance?
Maybe if you'd declined said ambulance the rozzer would have declined to issue said ticket? .......

I doubt it, anyway I dont have to have a rego to get an ambo ride from my rugby game, or ice hockey,or tiddywinks do I?

I paid my ticket, I learned my lesson.......... eventually

[Grahameeboy]

Im sorry to be so blunt, but thas a typical wingy English attitude. She fucked up and hurt someone, should she get away with it? What about if it was your kid, would you just say to her, "Oh well, guess you learnt your lesson", or would you want her to make right any way she could? What is it with people thinking that if they fuck up, they shouldnt be punished? Bet she wont bloody do it again will she.


Somehow, this story confirms my theory on the attitude of the English (Not all mind you)

I think you have taken the whinging POM out of context here......yes she had an 'accident' but surely the circumstances and intention need to be factors.....to me careless or dangerous reflects the intent of driver.....I think we need to know more specifics about accident before we judge.

What would the charges have been if the kid had not been injured? If the charges would have been less then this does question the Law......

In the UK if you get stopped for more than 1 offence you only get the points for the highest points offence. Does seem here that the Law is too literal at times.................I think it is worth her defending the charge cause the Police have to proof beyond all reasonable doubt.....stupid thing is that she will be able to get a limited licence anyway cause her kid is injured.

I drive like a Grandad in my car (okay the bike too). I could have a minor bump, say hit someone in rear , my Daughter because of her weakness could easily suffer an injury that an able bodied child would not sustain and potentially I would get charged....

[TLDV8]

II drive like a Grandad in my car (okay the bike too). I could have a minor bump, say hit someone in rear , my Daughter because of her weakness could easily suffer an injury that an able bodied child would not sustain and potentially I would get charged....

The chances of getting fined when you are doing the speed limit driving in a sensible fashion with your child securely restrained would be almost imposible.?


Strangely..... If a new law was passed where a cop seeing a vehicle with non restrained kids,could pull the vehicle up,shoot the driver in the side of the head with a glock and drive away.
Once it was common knowledge,those arseholes who drive around with no regard for their childrens safety in the form of car seats or seatbelts would not be belting them up for any other reason than their own self preservation not the childs.
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Somethings will never change,people wanting two sets of rules to suit themselves being one.
Of course this thread is still based on what may or may not have happened.

[jonbuoy]

Im sorry to be so blunt, but thas a typical wingy English attitude. She fucked up and hurt someone, should she get away with it? What about if it was your kid, would you just say to her, "Oh well, guess you learnt your lesson", or would you want her to make right any way she could? What is it with people thinking that if they fuck up, they shouldnt be punished? Bet she wont bloody do it again will she.


Somehow, this story confirms my theory on the attitude of the English (Not all mind you)

And A typical South African reply.....

[Toaster]

.....And guess what , they stuffed up his blood test and he got off ...bullshit Eh!!!!!.

I agree, it's ridiculous! I used to be in the job and it wasn't hard to do the drink drive process correctly as long as you were good with paperwork and did things in the right order. I never lost a case for criminal or traffic cases becasue I followed procedure and was careful to collect evidence appropriately.

It's a damn poor showing getting it wrong in the case you mentioned. Half the problem is lawyers making a fortune getting loser pissheads (often repeat offenders) off charges on a stupid procedural technicality - notwithstanding the clear fact that the 'client' was drunk as a skunk and may have killed and hurt others, or cost us taxpayers millions. Typical PC dribble in favour of the badguys and to hell with the public who suffer and want to live life without having to fear which dickhead is going to crash into them next.

Keep up the good work bud. Have a great Christmas.

[Sniper]

And A typical South African reply.....

Now we are just getting racist

[jonbuoy]

Now we are just getting racist

Ha you started it!!

[Lou Girardin]

It always seems strange to me when people are charged for causing a single vehicle accident and only themselves or their family is hurt. It strikes me that that is sufficient penalty in itself. It would also be a far better lesson than any fine or disqualification.
Just to be clear, I am not referring to accidents where there are aggravating factors such as drink involved.