How many pillion seats are out there?

**Waylander** · 20th December 2006, 19:38

Full liscence for 6 years with three years worth pillion experiance.

Ask LittleSweetie_2006 what it's like on the back of my bike.

And oh yea, I'm in Tauranga.

**R6_kid:Me** · 20th December 2006, 20:15

mines free for group rides. due to me being 'well built' passenger weight is restricted to 75kg! (according the the owners manual)

**madmal64** · 20th December 2006, 20:26

Happy to pillion from time to time. The seat is reasonably comfortable ( so I am told) but its pegs are quite high so as long as peeps dont mind the sport style ride they are very welcome.
Riding for 25+ years. The wife lets me take out both of our older kids so even she must think Im responsible.

**Oakie** · 20th December 2006, 21:08

Pillioning. Hmm. On Friday I delivered Santa to the Xmas party for the residents at the place I work at, on the back of my bike. Get this ... Santa stood on the pillion seat instead of sitting! (Bloody 'Performing Arts' students!). Pillioning someone standing instead of sitting is a whole lot easier than I would have thought though ... not that I'm recommending that anyone try it. (My biggest fear was that I'd crash and hurt Santa then have to front up to 65 disappointed intellectually disabled partygoers to explain.)

Back on topic ... there would be great domestic dis-harmony if my pillion seat was occupied by anyone other than Mrs Oakie so sorry ... my tail-gunner position is probably not available.

What I found really fascinating though (as a guy who works with figures) is the way this poll has filled out. In each of the 3 locations you have a certain number biking for up to 5 years ... a lesser number going from 6 to 9 and then a higher number than the first period for the demographic '10 years and over'. If you ignore the fact that the third period is much longer than the first two it sort of mirrors what a lot of riders life experience is here. That is ... ride for a few years, give it up while doing the kids and mortgage thing and then pick it up again somewhere around the forties.

**Karma** · 20th December 2006, 21:13

Originally Posted by Oakie

Pillioning. Hmm. On Friday I delivered Santa to the Xmas party for the residents at the place I work at, on the back of my bike.

Back on topic ... there would be great domestic dis-harmony if my pillion seat was occupied by anyone other than Mrs Oakie.

So you're saying that Santa, is actually Mrs. Oakie???

**Big Dog** · 20th December 2006, 21:15

Originally Posted by Keystone19

I am in Auckland

I regularly carry pillions

I am happy to take anyone for a ride but I do prefer that they are lighter in weight...doesn't matter really but if they are an inexperienced pillion then it is my preference that they are lighter.

I recommend that before take a pillion that weighs more than you do you get some serious pillion kms, say 10,000 kms 2 up.

After that based on my own arsograph, if you want to feel in control you passenger should weigh less than a third of yours and your bikes combined weight (EG. bike = 260 kg rider = 75kg so pillion should weigh less than 260 + 75 / 3 = Pillion should weigh less than 111.66 kg.).
The one limitation being that the gross laden mass must be under the max load of the bike.

I doubt there is not anyone here I cannot pillion unless you put us over the load of the bike. The bike says 300kg may load in gear I am 155 kg if you weigh less than that and want a ride let me know via bigdogonamotabike@hotmail.com.

Do not post your request in here, there are plenty of small minded individuals who will misuse the information.

**Oakie** · 20th December 2006, 21:18

Originally Posted by Weasel

So you're saying that Santa, is actually Mrs. Oakie???

Nah. She wouldn't fit down a chimney (and I'm damned sure she wouldn't stand on the seat of my bike!)

**Big Dog** · 20th December 2006, 21:21

After 200,000kms + I have learned......

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...2&postcount=24

**Karma** · 20th December 2006, 21:22

Originally Posted by Big Dog

After that based on my own arsograph, if you want to feel in control you passenger should weigh less than a third of yours and your bikes combined weight (EG. bike = 260 kg rider = 75kg so pillion should weigh less than 260 + 75 / 3 = Pillion should weigh less than 111.66 kg.).
The one limitation being that the gross laden mass must be under the max load of the bike.

I doubt there is not anyone here I cannot pillion unless you put us over the load of the bike. The bike says 300kg may load in gear I am 155 kg if you weigh less than that and want a ride let me know via bigdogonamotabike@hotmail.com

Mate, I reckon you and I could test the limits of your bikes load if you wanted

How do you know the max load of your bike?

**Big Dog** · 20th December 2006, 21:33

Originally Posted by Weasel

Mate, I reckon you and I could test the limits of your bikes load if you wanted

How do you know the max load of your bike?

Most come with a pretty book with lots of pictures under the seat and most also come with max recommended load oil etc on a sticker on the side of the swingarm.

**terbang** · 20th December 2006, 22:16

I find the Busa great 2 up, giving the rider a lot more control over the pillion than other types I have ridden or currently ride. Recently gave another rider a lift home and he was considerably bigger than me. The suspension was setup for solo riding, itwallowed a bit and he did a couple of little standups (sorry mate having fun there) but it was easy to control.

**Dadpole** · 20th December 2006, 22:51

Originally Posted by Big Dog

Most come with a pretty book with lots of pictures under the seat.

Not if you bought it new from Wellington Motorcycles in the early eighties. They would sell it to you though.

**Dutchee** · 20th December 2006, 23:08

Wierd poll. I've had my FULL licence over 20 years but have less than 3 years road experience and have pillioned once (over 20 years ago).

I'd rather know what experience pillioning the rider has plus what experience the pillionee has. Having been pillionee more times than I care to remember, I know what bad experiences I've had causing me to ride my own bike now. I know (am told) I'm hopeless as I'm wanting to ride my own bike when I'm pillion. Last time (couple of weeks back) I remember braking & then remembering, hmm, I'm on the back of my own bike.

Nope, won't take pillion even though I could. If you weigh less than 45-50kg & are keen to have a novice pillioner as your first ride, yell out, I'll talk you out of it hehehe

**Big Dog** · 20th December 2006, 23:14

Originally Posted by Weasel

How do you know the max load of your bike?

Kawasaki reckon your bike does not exist lol.
try this spec sheet for the 500's http://www.kawasaki.com/DefaultFrame...OSEVEHICLE.ASP
says 186kgs max laden weight.