Mini motorbike recall (29 Dec 06)

**Skyryder** · 30th December 2006, 11:40

I wonder what story lies behind these bikes.

Steps in the entry certification process

Once a vehicle has been imported into New Zealand, it must be border-checked, certified, registered and licensed for use on the road. The key process is entry certification, where:

* the owner's legal entitlement to the vehicle is established
* it's established that the vehicle met the required safety and emissions standards when it was manufactured
* the vehicle is inspected and tested to determine whether its structure, components and systems meet New Zealand safety requirements.

Just how did they get off loaded here in NZ??

Skyryder

**White trash** · 30th December 2006, 12:22

The problem is, the people who are buying these bikes for their kids have not a shred of mechanical know-how in most cases.

They are cheap chinese stuff, but I've persoanlly sold quite a few of the exact same machine and offered the new owners tips on how to look after and assemble their machines correctly, should they not already know.

Fizzerman has one for his kids and it's going briliant and will continue to, because he knows what he's doing.

**ArcherWC** · 30th December 2006, 12:49

The worst bit is the dumb ass parents who buy these, then go out and buy a $20 bike helmet to "protect" their kids heads.

and dont say "no way", because i saw just that on boxing day, luckly the bike shop owner was a mx'er as well and said no way buddy,

**Coyote** · 30th December 2006, 12:58

Are they assembled in the shop to save space in their crates when they're shipped? Or are they small enough for that not to be a problem? Cause the Milazo range of push bikes suffer many problems from being assembled by clueless warehouse employees, plus their components are just plain cheap, rusty shit

**JMemonic** · 30th December 2006, 13:02

Originally Posted by ArcherWC

The worst bit is the dumb ass parents who buy these, then go out and buy a $20 bike helmet to "protect" their kids heads.

I am sure there were some helmets on display around these bikes at one warehouse store, I was in a bit of a rush at the time but had a rapid look at them for the safety cert and markings on the box, none was visible to me. Your comment about $20 helmets, reminded me did anyone else take a look at these things and if so was there any safety ratings on them ?

**JMemonic** · 30th December 2006, 13:27

Originally Posted by Skyryder

I wonder what story lies behind these bikes.

Steps in the entry certification process

Once a vehicle has been imported into New Zealand, it must be border-checked, certified, registered and licensed for use on the road. The key process is entry certification, where:

* the owner's legal entitlement to the vehicle is established
* it's established that the vehicle met the required safety and emissions standards when it was manufactured
* the vehicle is inspected and tested to determine whether its structure, components and systems meet New Zealand safety requirements.

Just how did they get off loaded here in NZ??

Skyryder

Easy none of these steps apply is the vehicle is not for road use, the border check is a MAF check and a check to ensure that the paper work is in order ie the de reg papers, not a stolen vehicle, and is on the approved list for vehicles currently allowed on the road. MX bikes and toys don't fall under the safety list that gets stopped at the border.

The steps you list are mostly preformed at the certification stage when a vehicle gets a VIN allocated, these things would have come in as toys and so long as they meet the requirements around what ever classification they come under then they would be fine

The problem is the warehouse would not have had to submit any of these for testing but just provided paperwork from the manufacture stating the specs and matching requirements. They are possibly perfectly fine units when assembled correctly, (ie bolts tightened and not done up with an adjustable spanner or worse slip jaw pliers), and used correctly, not had some 80+ Kg (Christmas lubricated) father showing his kids how its done and bending the wheels/frame.

Actually I suspect the issue is more to do with the fact the ones I saw were some assembly required and the lack mechanical skills in the general population. Didn't the same outfit have an issue with simple old push bikes a few years back that were some assembly required then change their bikes to be fully assembled units?

Just realised it looks like I am defending the retailer here but that is not the case, all retailers should learn a lesson from this, and just because you provide instructions saying not to do something don't assume they will be followed.

**Skyryder** · 30th December 2006, 13:51

The reason I ask is that I thought that with the new ammendments to the Land Transport Act etc off road vehicles needed a WOF

Skyryder

**onearmedbandit** · 30th December 2006, 13:56

Originally Posted by Skyryder

The reason I ask is that I thought that with the new ammendments to the Land Transport Act etc off road vehicles needed a WOF

Skyryder

Pardon?? How would an RM, CRF, YZF etc get a WOF??

**davereid** · 30th December 2006, 14:07

Yeah Skyriders sort of right - lots of off road places are now "roads".. I think the law now defines a road as "any place to which the public have access whether by right or not" - at least as far as needing rego etc is concerned.

Around here the local cops are having fun down on the beach ticketing old codgers going fishing for having a quad without it being registered. They have put up big signs saying the beach, foreshore, sand dunes etc etc are all places you have to have rego and a warrant.

Just more arseholes making life difficult.

Still, I for one can assure you that my yamaha big bear quad will go through soft sand that stops a police Nissan Navara 4x4 in its tracks. Sorry I didn't stay to help buddy, I had fresh fish to get home.

**skidMark** · 30th December 2006, 14:15

damn i could make a massive rant but what would be the point.

hmmmmm does this mean ill be able to buy a whole heap of recalled shitboxes cheap?

i need a new can opener

**skidMark** · 30th December 2006, 14:17

Originally Posted by onearmedbandit

Pardon?? How would an RM, CRF, YZF etc get a WOF??

well you see frankie i know a guy who knows a guy and he knows this guy, ya know?

**skidMark** · 30th December 2006, 14:23

Originally Posted by Skyryder

I wonder what story lies behind these bikes.

Steps in the entry certification process

Once a vehicle has been imported into New Zealand, it must be border-checked, certified, registered and licensed for use on the road. The key process is entry certification, where:

* the owner's legal entitlement to the vehicle is established
* it's established that the vehicle met the required safety and emissions standards when it was manufactured
* the vehicle is inspected and tested to determine whether its structure, components and systems meet New Zealand safety requirements.

Just how did they get off loaded here in NZ??

Skyryder

before mini choppers etc came in the law for mopeds stated that some did not need registration if they were under 49cc and the rider was under 14 thus classing it as a childrens toy

and aside from that on a different tangent....

these are clased as a toy not ijntended for road use which basically makes them a ride on mower.....would you need a warrent for an imported ride on mower?

they are toys they r cheap rubbish people go beyong thier limits ....

but this is not to say all of these little bikes are junk and more specifically not all chinese ones

but in saying that yes there is some absolute junk out there and then there is other chinese bikes which are fast gaining on the quality of that of suzuki and honda etc.

**onearmedbandit** · 30th December 2006, 14:30

Originally Posted by davereid

Yeah Skyriders sort of right - lots of off road places are now "roads".. I think the law now defines a road as "any place to which the public have access whether by right or not" - at least as far as needing rego etc is concerned.

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Sure, for vehicles used on anything considered a road. But not all off-road vehicles are going to be used in these places therefore they shouldn't need a WOF. IE moto-x bikes. Or are these defined as competition vehicles and therefore exempt.

**pervert** · 30th December 2006, 14:43

Originally Posted by NighthawkNZ

they are made in china... what do they expect... they are cheap shit that should not be on the NZ market

Fuck, thats a big call to rag on EVERYTHING made in China. I would be positive you would own plenty of items made in China that you are quite happy with.

Originally Posted by Skyryder

The reason I ask is that I thought that with the new ammendments to the Land Transport Act etc off road vehicles needed a WOF

Skyryder

You are just a big pot of mis-information aren't you...

Originally Posted by davereid

Yeah Skyriders sort of right - lots of off road places are now "roads".. I think the law now defines a road as "any place to which the public have access whether by right or not" - at least as far as needing rego etc is concerned.

If it's behind a gate (e.g. your own land) then its not a public road and you can ride and do whatever you want to an extent.