Road policing activities

[scumdog]

Gidday.
Would any of the boys in blue here accounted for care to explain. Are you currently issuing over 75% of tickets for non safety related traffic offences? Be most interesting to hear what those offences are - speeding perhaps?

One is referred to a table I could not find that lists trauma related offences - is speed on it? And more t the point what are these other (non safety related) offences attracting the lions share of tickets.

Are the bulk of tickets issued for safety reasons then? Seems not. And if not why not. Area Commanders have some explaining to do. And you will find an article coming out January in a prestigious magazine will be turning some a shade of beetroot - many of their Press utterances of recent days will be a source of deep embarrassmet come the big expose. Down trou

Can't speak for others but a fair number of my tickets are 'compliance' ones for cracked windscreen, non-functional or missing inside door latch handle, non-functional headlight/raer-light/indicator, tyre below the minimum tread and the list goes on.
All are counted as tickets, none create income for the Government.

What percentage are they?
Dunno and don't give a shit.

BTW Do you count giving a Learner driver a ticket for breach of his learners conditions a 'safety' ticket? - I do.

Wanna speed past me?
You may or may not get a ticket.
If you do? - bad luck , get on KB and whinge.
I don't give a shit, whinge if it makes you happy.

Don't like the speed tickets?
Do 'something' about it - or else grin and bear it or piss off.

And is this Prestigious magazine 'Driver' or similar by any chance?

Have a nice day.

[Grahameeboy]

Can't speak for others but a fair number of my tickets are 'compliance' ones for cracked windscreen, non-functional or missing inside door latch handle, non-functional headlight/raer-light/indicator, tyre below the minimum tread and the list goes on.
All are counted as tickets, none create income for the Government.

What percentage are they?
Dunno and don't give a shit.

BTW Do you count giving a Learner driver a ticket for breach of his learners conditions a 'safety' ticket? - I do.

Wanna speed past me?
You may or may not get a ticket.
If you do? - bad luck , get on KB and whinge.
I don't give a shit, whinge if it makes you happy.

Don't like the speed tickets?
Do 'something' about it - or else grin and bear it or piss off.

And is this Prestigious magazine 'Driver' or similar by any chance?

Have a nice day.

Respect to that post Scumdog..........the Police will never win I guess but the whinging will continue eh.............I prefer to ride.......

[scumdog]

Well knock me over with a feather
It wasn't too long ago that we were assured by (the ones we should be able to trust) that there was no such thing as a Quota System

But we ALL knew that was bullshit too!

QUOTAS?
Of course there is a quota.

But not for me, I issue as many tickets as I feel necessary.

And anyway WHO CARES IF THERE IS A QUOTA ??????

[TLDV8]

Count me in for another 20 demerits and $120

The scene of the crime,you got it...... Meremere ..wide,two lane.. divided,single direction..by myself in the left lane cruising along at 120 kmh (4000 rpm) apparently.He seemed very concerned i did not know the exact speed i was doing

You get that.

[scumdog]

Count me in for another 20 demerits and $120

The scene of the crime,you got it...... Meremere ..wide,two lane.. divided,single direction..by myself in the left lane cruising along at 120 kmh (4000 rpm) apparently.He seemed very concerned i did not know the exact speed i was doing

You get that.

Ah well, good entertainment don't come cheap, glad you enjoyed your ride eh!

[Grahameeboy]

Count me in for another 20 demerits and $120

The scene of the crime,you got it...... Meremere ..wide,two lane.. divided,single direction..by myself in the left lane cruising along at 120 kmh (4000 rpm) apparently.He seemed very concerned i did not know the exact speed i was doing

You get that.

My sympathy.........hard not to view this as petty given the road eh but that is the way it is.

[TLDV8]

My sympathy.........hard not to view this as petty given the road eh but that is the way it is.

Exactly..The law is the law...... A little ironic given i was returning from another 250 ride where the average speed was the limit or less

I suppose i could get a radar detector but it would be a first and something i have been putting off.
With 40 demerit points now (last ticket one a year go,115 kmh along the Bombay straight in light traffic/left lane) and a planned South Island trip shortly i see no choice given it is that or to be continuously not looking where i am going given the speedometer is out of plain view.
The chances of sticking to 100 kmh over that mileage is near impossible without it turning into a PITA.
It has to be said i rarely go over 140 kmh on the bike these days but atleast yesterday got one maniac off the road for 15 minutes

[Clockwork]

QUOTAS?
Of course there is a quota.

But not for me, I issue as many tickets as I feel necessary.

And anyway WHO CARES IF THERE IS A QUOTA ??????

I care, if there wern't any quotas then people on the recieving end of an infringment notice might have to accept the fact that the issuing officer had a genuine concern for public saftey rather than dismissing it as simply revenue gathering.

[denill]

QUOTAS?
Of course there is a quota.
But not for me, I issue as many tickets as I feel necessary.
And anyway WHO CARES IF THERE IS A QUOTA ??????

Maybe you never said there was a Quota System in operation (or did you?) but it is about credibility. Cos I would swear that the official line was "'There is no such thing as Quotas". (Or did I get it wrong?)

So when the Cop pulls you up for exceeding 110 ks on a straight stretch of deserted road and says "It is for your own good sir/madam", that of course is Bullshit too.
But EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT, except Cops wont admit it - yet.

[RT527]

No, but I'd fish in different possies from time to time. You might not get a bin of schoolies, but you could get a couple of big Kings.

Nice Reply and well said!!

[scumdog]

So when the Cop pulls you up for exceeding 110 ks on a straight stretch of deserted road and says "It is for your own good sir/madam", that of course is Bullshit too.
But EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT, except Cops wont admit it - yet.

Never ever said that - never will.
Never given a ticket for 110ks have for 93 - but that was in a 50 area.

I 'Give' out tickets when I feel they are desrved, just do it as part of my job, no moral qualms about it at all.
(sort of like the Warehouse sells an item for $45 when they bought it in China for $8:60 kinda morals)

STILL only had one speed ticket in my life - I guess ya just don't know where to speed???

[Lou Girardin]

I care, if there wern't any quotas then people on the recieving end of an infringment notice might have to accept the fact that the issuing officer had a genuine concern for public saftey rather than dismissing it as simply revenue gathering.

Anyone with a reasonable level of driving experience knows that tickets for 11 k's over the limit has nothing to do with road safety. Yet 75% of all speed tickets are for 11 to 15 over.
Even the cops and LTNZ constantly refer to "excessive speed for the conditions" and expect the great unwashed to believe that they mean exceeding speed limits.

[denill]

Never ever said that - never will.
Never given a ticket for 110ks have for 93 - but that was in a 50 area.
I 'Give' out tickets when I feel they are desrved, just do it as part of my job, no moral qualms about it at all.
(sort of like the Warehouse sells an item for $45 when they bought it in China for $8:60 kinda morals)
STILL only had one speed ticket in my life - I guess ya just don't know where to speed???

In that case that makes you a 'good' cop.

But don't even attempt to try to convince that your attitude is endemic in the brainless self-serving HWP

[Clivoris]

I guess ya just don't know where to speed???

Go on. Give us a clue. Now that would be a thread of inestimable value this font of brotherly and sisterly love that is KiwiBiker. Anyone else hear banjos?

[denill]

Do you think the tolerance should be rasied on the open road to 20k? or that some areas should have an increase in the limit?

Of course not and that is just an attempt to defend the indefensible.

The nub of the dilemma is - the overly zealous and pedantic policing of arbitrary but not always realistic speed limits in zones where even the half witted drivers on our roads (and there are a few) can travel at higher than the designated speed with complete safety (and Cops know it!)
Eg: The policy of targeting passing lanes is just one example. As long as this regime exists the lack of respect for Cops will continue to increase.