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    First ride up the 'Takas today (30 December)

    ...on the Guzzi V11.
    Boy, what an experience !!! All the of Guzzi owners said ride them how they should be ridden or they will bite.
    Well mine bit me a couple of times !!
    I tried the hard up to the corner, hard brakes while starting the lean, lean over and power out approach...and it did not like that !!!
    The shaft reaction dropped my line in too narrow and the engine torque reaction made it run too wide !!!
    Thank god for the overtaking lane saving me !!!

    So, I tried the power up to the corner, hard brakes while upright, lean into the corner with a neutral throttle and then power out progressively.
    Much better !!!

    I have to say, the sound of the big twin going down through the gears and also doing 8000rpm bouncing off the wall is something to behold.
    Big smile material !!

    Anyway enough drivel from me, thought I would share this experience.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nudemetalz View Post
    The shaft reaction dropped my line in too narrow and the engine torque reaction made it run too wide !!!
    Does it do the same thing on the opposite corner? If so, I suspect it's the suspension and not the shaft.

    Not that I know shit, but this guy does...

    http://www.moto-racing.co.uk/Guides/...nsionSetup.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by RantyDave View Post
    Does it do the same thing on the opposite corner? If so, I suspect it's the suspension and not the shaft.

    Not that I know shit, but this guy does...

    http://www.moto-racing.co.uk/Guides/...nsionSetup.htm

    Dave
    The rear drops down when the power comes off, but I was also leaning to the left at the same time.
    The engine torque reaction is only on left handers as putting on the power pulls it to the right.
    Hope this all makes sense.

    But you are right to a degree, I am slowly sorting out the suspension for me.

    Thanks for the link.


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    Doesn't sound like the kind of "character" I would enjoy. I like my bikes soft and sensual.

    Nothing like experience though eh!
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    Very quickly.

    I brake, release brake, tip into corner and (then) on the gas right though the corner.

    On the older bikes with integrated brakes, if to fast or got a wobble or bounce on, you would drag the foot brake to stabilise or slow down a bit.
    You would keep the power on and I use to gas up even a bit more and release the rear brake slowly.

    This will not work as well on the newer Guzzi's as they do not have integrated bakes, but I still drag the rear brake a bit before I think about throttling off.
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    Shaft effect?

    I used to own a K100RS and didn't corner much differently to what I do now.
    That "much differently" is mainly occasioned by the fact the Hornet may be thrown around more easily than a K100.

    Any bike will tighten its line if you chop the throttle in a corner, similarly all bikes widen the line if you gas it and they should all hold a constant line while you maintain constant throttle. Properly set up bikes all lose ground clearance if you suddenly shut the throttle in a corner.

    Get your suspension right and follow normal good cornering practice as described in many books and magazine articles and you should be fine. The shaft effect shouldn't be a problem.
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    When leaned over and powered off it felt like the rear end dropped but then the engine torque picked the bike up and went way off where I wanted the bike to go despite lots of countersteering.
    Like has been said before, the suspension isn't quite rightly setup for me, but I'm working on it.
    My "Guzzi Technique" needs to be learned still as well.

    Apart from those scary couple of moments, riding the Guzzi up the Rimutakas was a sheer joy indeed and made me feel like I had made the right bike choice for sure. Just a little more vocals from the exhausts is needed now.


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    Had the opportunity to see one "up close and personal" like, in Mt Eden Motamacycles today ('zactly like yours). They is a sexy beast. If I had more time I might have conned a test ride on it... Woulda been interesting to see you on the Taka's with yours
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    Nice one nudez, it is a cool bike and I'm sure there will be many more 'test runs' up the Takas!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nudemetalz View Post
    Like has been said before, the suspension isn't quite rightly setup for me, but I'm working on it.
    These may be of some help.

    http://www.racetech.com/articles/Sus...AndSprings.htm

    http://www.peterverdonedesigns.com/oilheight.htm

    http://www.strappe.com/suspension.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by nudemetalz View Post
    riding the Guzzi ......... was a sheer joy indeed and made me feel like I had made the right bike choice for sure.
    Yea we like them as well.
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    Feel the fear and do it anyway

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    IMO, the only thing nicer than a V11 is two V11's !!!

    Here's mine today after I finished polishing her just before I went on my ride.


    (thanks for the links too, Lemans)
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    I'm guessing that your year off has ended?
    Prognosis is good I suspect!!!
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    Pretty much. Just have to take it quietly (like today,..yeah right) for a few months.


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    Your bike looks nicer every time I see it.
    And the pic's are getting better as well.

    Now do you want to clean mine?
    Now take it out and get some bugs on it.
    Feel the fear and do it anyway

    Don't confuse education with intelligence.
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