Of course, but that is not always a good thing.Originally Posted by Deano
Deus ex ukulele
Of course, but that is not always a good thing.
"Standing on your mother's corpse you told me that you'd wait forever." [Bryan Adams: Summer of 69]
Deus ex ukulele
Just like people who say "maffs" instead of "maths"
"Somethink" instead of "something"
And then there's the land of the flat vowel and the "dark" L, and combinations thereof...
"Steer" instead of "stare"
"Ear" instead of "air"
New Zulan
Fush & chups
"Poow" instead of "pool"
"Juw" instead of "Jill"
And then people who have the gall to accuse "foreigners" of not pronouncing the language proper..
Sigh...
"Standing on your mother's corpse you told me that you'd wait forever." [Bryan Adams: Summer of 69]
fuckin grumpy leave me alone
Dave, taku hoa maaua eke tahi.
F/F
"Kiwi Biker, still a great place despite the mods "
"Would crawl over broken glass before owning Suzuki"
The only reason I only ride in the Iron man Class is I have no friends left to enter the two man events,
my own fault really.
Hardcore Biker
In Wales less than 20% of the population(of about 3 million I think)speak the language but everything is written in English and Welsh,ironically,or typically more like,highly subsidised by the English taxpayer.Channel 4 t.v. runs a massively loss-making Welsh language channel,all part of the license deal to shut up a few gobby Taffs.Costs the rest of us a fortune to indulge a minority,not what us Europeans invaded the bloody place for all those years ago.Now Cornwall is getting bi-lingual road-signs,and again the rest of us have to subsidise a bunch of inbred Celts.Cornish as spoken today isnt even a real language,it died out and blokes with beards,sandals and sod-all better to do got bits from books and made up the rest,instant culture.Maori`s a neat language,very expressive and I`ve got quite a lot of music,Oceania,One Giant leap,Moana e.t.c.,Welsh sounds like someone pissed choking on a fish-bone,the Cornish talk shit whatever language they use.
I'd rather be thinking
Isn't it funny how we find things to criticise in a language when what we really want to do is slag off the people who speak it? To my ears Welsh sounds no harsher or less musical than French or Russian or Thai or whatever. Ever wondered how English sounds to a speaker of a tonal language like Thai or Chinese? Incredibly monotonous, boring, boring, boring...
Fair enough if you don't like the people for whatever reason (they smell, eat snails or monkey brains, can't win wars, have slant eyes, whatever...) but you're in a glass house wildly slinging boulders around when you start to pontificate on the value or aesthetics of a particular language.
P.S. What have the Cornish done to upset you? Did a pasty give you tummy ache...?
Age is too high a price to pay for maturity
on the up
Hmmm. More evidence for why the English are bastards.
The death of indigenous languages and customs around the world is robbing us all of a rich variety of culture.
Interestingly there is a lot of empathy for the welsh and scottish amongst maori in this country, especially as the english practiced all their stuff there first before exporting their own particular variety of ethic cleansing to down under.
And I to my motorcycle parked like the soul of the junkyard. Restored, a bicycle fleshed with power, and tore off. Up Highway 106 continually drunk on the wind in my mouth. Wringing the handlebar for speed, wild to be wreckage forever.
- James Dickey, Cherrylog Road.
e mare libertas
That is a curiously apt typographical error.
kiwibiker is full of love, an disrespect.
- mikey
Hardcore Biker
Nope,most of that post was tongue in cheek,I can see Cornwall from where I sit now,lived there for a few years,as do most of my family now.I`ve also met a few Cornish nationalists and they`ve all been obssessives with seemingly no other interests in life.There`s a similar rivalry between Cornwall/Devon as there is between different areas in N.Z. and my comments were in the same vein as those here directed at "JAFFA`s" e.t.c.One of the most prominent and out-spoken Cornish nationalists is an old mate of mine and if his legion of fans knew his background they wouldn`t touch the guy with a barge-pole,ex-con,ex -soccer thug (many convictions)and his boast of his age-old Cornish surname being a legacy of it`s glorious past forgets the minor detail that he changed it from one very common and indicating forebears from a county hundreds of miles away to his current one years ago by deed poll.
Welsh I dont like,sounds awful to my ears and I`m just saying what I feel.I`ve also lived in Scotland,where anti-English paranoia reaches ridiculous levels amongst people that should know better.A lot of historical stuff thrown at the English often show proof of more local involvement than is convienient these days.Celts tend to be a lot more bigotted than the "English",racist jokes are rife,despite until recently Cornwall having very few "ethnic" communities,nationally known local comedian Jethro starts a great proportion of his jokes "there was this black bloke",Scotland was the same,where I lived whatever wasn`t the fault of the English was "The blacks",bit odd as I dont remember seeing any in the small town I lived in.So why is it that I used to post that kind of stuff on a Welsh site and they thought it was funny and gave as good as they got while here people get up in arms?
As for Celtic`s comment,I think you`ll find that those colonialists were part of the British Empire,not the English Empire and the Scots more than played their part in it`s events of that era as any study of the histories of the old Scottish regiments will show you.
it's been a while..
Heya Duckman, No i know You're not taking the piss(even tho it'd be ok if You did 8-), I can hack it. You have a very good point about what You're saying & there's a lot of people who feel the same way. And you're also right about the re-actionism to any negative response. It's not that easy being a Pakeha at times either as the PC world of today makes it really hard to express your opinions about Maori without getting hammered. I know exactly where you're coming from. I doubt You'd get far with the complaints process as the maori language being 'injected' into mainstream is more than likely part of the goverment's way of adhering to a mandate to preserve 'Maori' language & culture.(I want to keep this thread mostly to the subject of language tho)Heya Dave, We've met so I hope you'll know that I'm not trying to take the piss... If I change channels, where do I go... to channel 3 where the same thing is happening..to the maori channel, where I won't understand anything at all..?? You are right tho', if I was REALLY annoyed by this shift in PC'nes then I should do something about it. Maybe a complaint to TV1 or 3 would have an effect but I bet my request would be binned as another redneck racist bagging mainstream media for trying to reach all peoples.. Honestly, do you think "they" would care ???
From my personal perspective (being 7/16ths Maori extraction,4.5/16ths Irish & 4.5/16ths English(I've worked it out lol) I like seeing it injected into the mainstream subtley. I object to too much as I can't understand it(my own ignorance & choice). I would like to see it continue but not be so obtrusive ie just the odd choice 'practical everyday' word here & there just to raise the profile a little without being overbearing. I think it helps to foster a gentle integration of Maori language into mainstream NZ-ers hearts as the maori culture struggles a lot with the PR side of things (because of reasons we all know eg disproportionate crime/economic/media respresentation etc). I can't help thinking that it may help to slowly 'soften' a mainstream that so quickly closes it's mind on anything Maori and maybe just the slow start of people coming to acknowledge and accept a culture & history unique to only New Zealand 'OUR COUNTRY'.
probably dreaming... but from my comments you can hopefully see a little bit of what many other Maori kiwis hope for. It's frustrating being in the middle sometimes when You see both sides fucking it up, but a distinct advantage of being 'in the middle' is that I can truly see/acknowledge and understand both 'sides' where sometimes either sides can't or won't. I am a kiwi with multiple heritage and culture. I wouldn't trade it for anything.
Maori language week only runs for 1 week(2% of the year) I will drop it after that.
Thanks all for You kind & respectful comments and a bit of humor never goes astry to keep things light.
Naku Iti Nei(Yours sincerely/humbly) 750Y
oh & FireFight...
wtf? man i am only reading these sayings off a greetings/farewells card i got given at work LOL 8-)
Hardcore Biker
Some excellent points Dave. Well worth taking on board.
Not even with yours!!!
Der gummikuh man
You really should make that 9/32ths Irish and English and 14/32ths Maori
I agree re FF. "Dave, my friend, we ...... first?" is the best translation I can get. What does eke mean?
Queiro voya todo Europa con mi moto.... pero no tengo suficiente tiempo o dinero.....
it's been a while..
yeah my maths is crap (1+1 = 11 lol), i guess i'm roughly half maori & quarter irish/english (or half european). my mrs is full dutch so imagine what my kids are? i don't even wanna think about that, lolYou really should make that 9/32ths Irish and English and 14/32ths Maori...
Der gummikuh man
9/64ths each of English and Irish, 7/32ths Maori and 1/2 Dutch. Or to put that in consistent fractions, 9/64ths English, 9/64ths Irish, 14/64ths Maori, and 32/64ths Dutch
I was more taking issue with your 4.5/16ths, which = 9/32ths. 4.5/16ths is not a "correct" fraction
Queiro voya todo Europa con mi moto.... pero no tengo suficiente tiempo o dinero.....
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