Is a litre bike too fast AND quick for the street?

[limbimtimwim]

Are you talking out of something you read in a magazine or from personal experience you've had on racetracks, the open road - speaking to Kawasaki dealership owners, other 636 riders etc?????

Bikes numbered 11 and 12 here: http://www.cliffhanger.org.nz/result..._2006_sept.htm are 2006 636s going through the speed trap on their limiters. Made a cool noise, if you don't mind mechanical abuse

And some academic observations:
Bike 14 (2nd from top) was a 2006 Yamaha R1 that was not being ridden to the breaking in rules in the owners handbook..

Bike 13 is a GSXR750K6 with maybe 2000rpm to go, but it didn't want to go much faster... Gah..!

[The_Dover]

Bike 13 is a GSXR750K6 with maybe 2000rpm to go, but it didn't want to go much faster... Gah..!

only cos of the fat knacker riding it......

[RoadRocket]

Bikes numbered 28 and 12 here: http://www.cliffhanger.org.nz/result..._2006_sept.htm are 2006 636s going through the speed trap on their limiters. Made a cool noise, if you don't mind mechanical abuse

I think you mean 28 and 11

[justsomeguy]

Bikes numbered 28 and 12 here: http://www.cliffhanger.org.nz/result..._2006_sept.htm are 2006 636s going through the speed trap on their limiters. Made a cool noise, if you don't mind mechanical abuse

And some academic observations:
Bike 14 (2nd from top) was a 2006 Yamaha R1 that was not being ridden to the breaking in rules in the owners handbook..

Bike 13 is a GSXR750K6 with maybe 2000rpm to go, but it didn't want to go much faster... Gah..!

Aha - thanks for that - so my speedo is out by 16kms then.

Interesting to note that you could only do (taking into account the 2000rpm more you had) just a bit more than the 636's. Do you think that was simply because you didn't want to abuse your new bike - or you reckon the 750 can only do close to 260+?? Cos they do have almost the same weight but a bit more power than the 636's.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

Aha - thanks for that - so my speedo is out by 16kms then.

my speedo is supposidly out by 9km... ?? :slap: but the all the test i done its 5 or 6k...

[justsomeguy]

my speedo is supposidly out by 9km... ?? :slap: but the all the test i done its 5 or 6k...

Perhaps - but mate in all fairness .... just getting close to the redline in 6th does it for me.


The only thing faster I know is a headfirst dive while skydiving where you can reach 400kmph - working my way to that

[limbimtimwim]

I think you mean 28 and 11

Oh, I've changed it.. And I think you ment 11 and 12. MD is number 12.

[limbimtimwim]

only cos of the fat knacker riding it......

13 is a fatty.

[Smorg]

Wow, you can go fast in a straight line.. have a gold star..

Thanks I'll take it

[Wolf]

Of course a litre is not too fast for the street - it's just a matter of control on the rider's part. i.e. if you're pathologically incapable of riding somewhere without ripping the throttle open in as many gears as possible, it's probably going to get you dead or licence-less in next to no time - but you could achieve the same results on an RG250 or a large number of other fast sub-litre bikes so it might pay to buy aomething gutless like an LS400...

To me, the engine power/power-to-weight/top speed is inconsequential in town - providing it can at least make the 70-80 km/h some sections of town permit - as it's a matter of throttle control to rectify anything: if it's a 50cc slug, rev the shit out of it and give it hell; if it's a 1200cc rocket, take it gently.

My concern - depending on the size and style of the bike and your own physical stats - would be whether or not it is too big/bulky/heavy for the street (or the local supermarket car park). Some litre bikes would be far too bulky for town use (I had a CB550 Four that was too unweildy around town for someone of my stature) but others would be OK, or at least OK for taller, heavier-set people.

I found the CB550 a pain to manouevre into and out of car parks, perform low speed turns, push backwards without dismounting etc yet I tried out a Suzuki Intruder 1400 that was easy to handle at low speed.

[idb]

Litre bikes are exactly 112cc too much.
What ridiculous conspicuous consumption!!!
They are just using up precious ccs that could be used in small motors in developing countries.

I heard that the USA has a cc mountain of unused engine capacity that has been subsidised by the government but not used.
Just more proof that the Bush administration is in the pockets of big business.

I haven't read all of this thread so I apologise if someone has pointed this out already.

[V4ME]

I think Litre bikes are certainly not too quick for the streets - at least not between Waihi and Whangamata. try keeping to the 100k speed limit here!
Mind you as the cc's go up eg 1800cc etc etc - bikes seem to be getting slower (and heavier) - I think it's the the 250+cc machines that are more the problem as they are more affordable to the hordes of speed freaks.
I can have as much fun riding at 100ks on the right roads. and I do.

The key therefore - look for the right roads (or track) whatever suits your fancy.

Any speed on a bike beats any speed in a car.

[scracha]

I think Litre bikes are certainly not too quick for the streets - at least not between Waihi and Whangamata. try keeping to the 100k speed limit here!

I go up there quite a lot. Noticed the federali's on the straitish bit before the twisties the last 2 out of 3 rides. It's still a nice road at sub 120k speeds....you just have to remember to ease up the throttle once straightened up. Wish there was a programmable thingiemibobbery device that made a loud noise at a rider defined speed as I can't be the only one who goes into some of the corners on that road at around 60 and look down and see I'm doing something illegal by the exit.

[Lou Girardin]

Are you talking out of something you read in a magazine or from personal experience you've had on racetracks, the open road - speaking to Kawasaki dealership owners, other 636 riders etc?????

I'm certainly not talking about what some dreamer sees on his speedo in the millesecond he takes his eyes off the road, and then adds 5 or 10 k's in case he read it wrong.
Run it through timing lights or get the speed checked by laser or radar, THEN I'll believe it.

[justsomeguy]

I'm certainly not talking about what some dreamer sees on his speedo in the millesecond he takes his eyes off the road, and then adds 5 or 10 k's in case he read it wrong.
Run it through timing lights or get the speed checked by laser or radar, THEN I'll believe it.

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Bikes numbered 11 and 12 here: http://www.cliffhanger.org.nz/result..._2006_sept.htm are 2006 636s going through the speed trap on their limiters. Made a cool noise, if you don't mind mechanical abuse

260kmph and some of the dreamers referred to own bike dealerships so their opinion may count.......right, better not take this tread more off topic....Happy new year Lou