Is a litre bike too fast AND quick for the street?

**Dodgyiti** · 8th January 2007, 19:11

Having commuted on a CBR thou for a year, I would have to say YES!
Go over a bump and jolt the throttle, next thing you either pop the front, spin the back or in the wet- both. Not the best in a 50kph zone in traffic

**NighthawkNZ:Me** · 8th January 2007, 19:14

Originally Posted by Dodgyiti

Having commuted on a CBR thou for a year, I would have to say YES!
Go over a bump and jolt the throttle, next thing you either pop the front, spin the back or in the wet- both. Not the best in a 50kph zone in traffic

I will admitt i do have that problem... tried to explain that to the cop... he didn't believe me... hes never riden a bike before

**N4CR** · 8th January 2007, 19:17

Originally Posted by SimJen

600's don't do the same 1/4 mile times. Most 1000's are at least a second quicker! Fact.

For the average rider yes fair enough, with the right rider they are pretty similar...

Performance:
ZX-6R ('03)
6/03
1/4 mile 10.67 @ 131.0
60-80 mph 4.34
80-100 mph 4.3
top speed 158.5 mph

04 10r gets 9.92 http://www.sportrider.com/features/1...erbikes_strip/

I've seen timesheets of 600's getting low 10's with just a pipe, as do litre bikes. Sure on a roll the litre bike will kill a 600 (saw the difference last night infact) but all in all they ain't really much slower down the strip. I see alot of average riders getting 11's on them though so your comment is valid for most riders.

**mstriumph** · 8th January 2007, 19:19

Originally Posted by FilthyLuka

yes... a litre bike is too fast for the road... that just makes it cooler!

Originally Posted by mstriumph

erm

is this thread in danger of turning into one of those chest-beating, testosterine-charged, testicular-bullshit sessions we swore to avoid after last year?

just asking ...........

I rest my case .......

**Dodgyiti** · 8th January 2007, 19:24

I should have added that I am not a newbie rider though, 20+ years of high mile 750+cc all weather riding.
And that CBR was gonna assist in finishing off my gammy old arse eventually

So I bought an 1100 but with under 100 horsies and heaps of low down grunt.
That is another issue, if the power only kicks in at 8000 rpm and only sludge below that, then it's a pain in traffic anyhow.

**NighthawkNZ:Me** · 8th January 2007, 19:34

Originally Posted by Dodgyiti

I should have added that I am not a newbie rider though, 20+ years of high mile 750+cc all weather riding.

yeah i better add that too

**Sketchy_Racer** · 8th January 2007, 19:34

Yes litre SPORTS bikes are way to fast for street use. but then most sports bikes are

I can understand people with hand injurys wanting a big sports bike, so they dont have to change gears as much.

I dont believe touring litre bikes or too big, as it sucks to try be touring ringing the nuts off a bike. It just aint fun.

Personally, Im not going to get a sports bike bigger than a 250. Its too easy,even on a 250, to get yourself into trouble. Plus, To ride a small its so much more rewarding, when you get everything right, and pass big bikes.

Shame about the ones that have to proove they are the 'big man' when they get passed by a little 150 or 250, and then do stupid speeds passing you back

(cept the one, that passed me back, then got nabbed by cop furthur down the road haha)

**The_Dover** · 8th January 2007, 19:42

Originally Posted by Dodgyiti

Having commuted on a CBR thou for a year, I would have to say YES!
Go over a bump and jolt the throttle, next thing you either pop the front, spin the back or in the wet- both. Not the best in a 50kph zone in traffic

horse shit. have you got your wrists pinned or just your arse?

Originally Posted by N4CR

HAHAHAAHAHAH! Finn.... sheeiesh! wHERES WINJA? Steve is a big ****** though :x

you can laugh. you look like a 12 year old girl with no tits.

**Finn** · 8th January 2007, 19:44

Originally Posted by N4CR

Steve is a big ****** though :x

Anybody looks big sitting next to me. Crazy Steve is only 5'7". By the way, he's not laughing. He always looks like that. He's crazy.

**Finn** · 8th January 2007, 19:45

Originally Posted by The_Dover

you can laugh. you look like a 12 year old girl with no tits.

Cool. Can I have his number?

**vmx1200nz** · 8th January 2007, 19:46

more cc's mean more ridable uselly.
600 and 1000cc are race replicas.
1100 to 1400 are big bore blasters but more comfort
1600+ cruiser

if the power is just starting at 7 thou.......then its about (mind) control.

**Paulus** · 8th January 2007, 21:06

Originally Posted by Dodgyiti

Having commuted on a CBR thou for a year, I would have to say YES!
Go over a bump and jolt the throttle, next thing you either pop the front, spin the back or in the wet- both. Not the best in a 50kph zone in traffic

I've ridden most of the R1 models and the manic 04 ZX-10R and none of them exhibit this behaviour. My old 98 R1 will occasionally lift the front gently under hard acceleration in first but that's about it. It will spin up in a straight line occasionally when the back tyre is stuffed but it's not a common occurance (assuming a good road surface of course). If you want a crazy wheelstanding, sliding, spinning monster ride a 250 2 stroke MXer.

**NighthawkNZ:Me** · 8th January 2007, 21:23

Originally Posted by Paulus

I've ridden most of the R1 models and the manic 04 ZX-10R and none of them exhibit this behaviour. My old 98 R1 will occasionally lift the front gently under hard acceleration in first but that's about it. It will spin up in a straight line occasionally when the back tyre is stuffed but it's not a common occurance (assuming a good road surface of course). If you want a crazy wheelstanding, sliding, spinning monster ride a 250 2 stroke MXer.

Its only happened to me once... but will admit I had only had it for a week and still getting use to the quarks of it and it was a pretty big bump in the road and caught me by suprise... (i avoid that road now

) and now have learnt the quarks of the VTR so no problem now...

**SixPackBack** · 8th January 2007, 23:03

throttle sensitivity- 1000 vs. 750

Copy and Paste from Gixxer.com.....these type of posts come up frequently

so im turning 16 this summer.

bikes have been my life since i was alot younger. i have rode dirtbikes from the beginning.

this passed year, i started gettin real serious into off-road riding, and have lived on the trails with my 250X. so after i really start to live on the rear wheel on my 250X, my old man decided to trust me more. (im a "good" kid, all responsiable, headstrong and such..lol) and he really trusts me alot.
He decided let me ride his 06 1K. and as of now, i ride it at least once a week.
just down the streets right down from my house.

i get on it though, im not at all afraid of the bike. no bike scares me. but i do have TONS of respect for it. and im already very comfortable on the bike, as far as feeling at home on it.

so to stop the giant post....

i want to buy a 2006 gixxer 750 this summer after i sell my 250X (get out of the payment)

YELLOW AND BLACK of course. my favorite colors.

im just afraid for one key reason. i love the hit his gixxer 1 has, it has the TRE, so first 4 gears (where i ride when i ride it) are insane.

im afraid if i do buy the 06 750, instead of an 05 1K, i will miss the just raw power of the litre bike.

so im hoping, some of you guys have rode both 750 and 1000 and can give some true perspective on the real difference in throttle snap and overall full pull.

to be sure were clear here, i know that i wont get boreed with even a 600 as my first bike of my own, i will be learning basics from basics. BUT what i fear is that i am a very fast learner, and i adapt very quickly to bikes. so im worried that if i ride anything smaller than a 1K (even though i know i can be much faster on a 600 or 750) i will just have that lag, and want more.

just need to know i wont miss the hit of the 1K since im already used to how it rips the minute i hit 6K rpm and doesnt stop pulling.

open to all and any input please. sorry for the long post.

**adiddy** · 8th January 2007, 23:13

depends on hus riding the damn thing lol...
some thous are for touring and two-up right? im sure a smaller bike would be a little more uncomfortable and unresponsive on the hills and behind cars..

ridden a 600 but not a 100. dont plan on doing so for a while......
its all up to the rider
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