We listened, now kindly naff off...

[vifferman]

My V8 F100 is magic when it comes to noise, deep rumble but not too loud, the real fun is going to the top story in a car-park building and leaving a trail of activated car-alarms set of by the vibration as I drive past - real mature eh?

Yes, it is. Indisputably.
I mean, I'm a mature gentleman, errr... person.... and I certainly enjoy this very same activity.
So it must be OK.

[Two Smoker]

AS you can see in my comment at the start of this thread, i gave a sitiuation where the loud pipe DID save me..... My bike is not obscenely loud at idle, or even at 6000rpm but up above 8 grand she starts screaming.... AS you can also see in my comment i was BESIDE the vehicle in their blindspot, as i was passing them, they only heard me when I REDLINED IT. So read the comment properly Mr Oscar before you make huge generalisations... If you areflying up behind someone then ofcourse it will scare the cage driver. but that is irralivant whether there is a loud exhaust or not (as CK stated)

Yes i get fucked off with the guy down the road with a HD with straight pipes, because it is FAR too loud, if its loud when opened up wide, whats the problem with that??? The problem is the rider if it is loud high up in the revs and constantly loud...

The other problem is the loudness/drone of a Boy Racer car, sure if they are only loud high up in the revs, no problem, but when they are idling and i can't talk to a mate thats a couple of metres away from me it is too loud....

Man that probably doesnt make sense, but im tired so who cares.....

[F5 Dave]

Of course most bikes have a little button on the left handlebar to notify cars that are about to encroach on thier space.

[Two Smoker]

Of course most bikes have a little button on the left handlebar to notify cars that are about to encroach on thier space.

Yep and i would use it....... if it was loud... I have used my horn before, didnt work, car kept coming and nearly took out my front wheel AFTER i had braked hard.....

Stupid fucking puny horn Next bike im going to put a massive air horn on it....

[F5 Dave]

Classic bit from Goodbye Pork Pie when they robbed a horn from a train for the mini.

AAWWOOOGAARRR!!!

[pete376403]

Fiamm electrics powered via a relay straight off the battery are very loud, real discordant notes that you just cannot ignore. No hassle with mounting compressor or long trumpets either. Each one is smaller than a Big Mac

[Oscar]

AS you can see in my comment at the start of this thread, i gave a sitiuation where the loud pipe DID save me..... My bike is not obscenely loud at idle, or even at 6000rpm but up above 8 grand she starts screaming.... AS you can also see in my comment i was BESIDE the vehicle in their blindspot, as i was passing them, they only heard me when I REDLINED IT. So read the comment properly Mr Oscar before you make huge generalisations... If you areflying up behind someone then ofcourse it will scare the cage driver. but that is irralivant whether there is a loud exhaust or not (as CK stated)

Me generalise?
Never.

Are you seriously telling us that faced with split second, life or death situation, you had the presence of mind to pull in your clutch and rev your bike? Strange thing to do...

Why did you not use the time to take evasive action? Apply the brakes? The horn?

Isn't pulling the clutch in, in that situation just a tiny bit silly? Loss of forward momentum and all that?

Perhaps the money you spent on your loud pipes would have been better spent on advanced riding lessons?

[Two Smoker]

Me generalise?
Never.

Are you seriously telling us that faced with split second, life or death situation, you had the presence of mind to pull in your clutch and rev your bike? Strange thing to do...

Why did you not use the time to take evasive action? Apply the brakes? The horn?

Isn't pulling the clutch in, in that situation just a tiny bit silly? Loss of forward momentum and all that?

Perhaps the money you spent on your loud pipes would have been better spent on advanced riding lessons?

I pulled in the clutch to drop it into second, revved the shit out of it and popped the clutch to get out of the way faster, couldnt brake as there was a car directly behind me up my arse (typical Auckland scenario...) I didnt spend any money getting loud pipes, i didnt mod them either, the previous owner did.....

As for talking about my riding ability, how about you judge that after riding with me, but since many people have ridden with me off this site, how about you read their comments.....

I agree with your original statement partly, and your entitled to your opinion, but its generalisations which create the downfall for things.... ie if a bike crashes and the rider dies, therefore all bikes are death traps, stupid generalisation isnt it..... Same can be said about exhuasts there is the odd fuck head out there, but sometimes it works and does domething right

[Drunken Monkey]

Yes problemo. What is superior? Well we’ll need a list. . . otherwise it’s just as subjective as the noise test.

Do you think the legislators will say well it came out on Michelin pilots but it’s ok to fit Diablos, but not Azaros?

I think Hitcher is referring to one being able to say, for example, fit 'H' rated tyres on a car that would normally ship with 'Z' rated tyres. In theory, that's probably not a problem if you're not heavy footed and don't go over 100km/h. In practice, if I were to buy a sports car (or bike), I would drive/ride it as such, and would therefore get myself into a lot of trouble riding the lesser rated tyre over the conditions it was designed for. I don't think the brand or options within the range is restricted, ie you can fit ANY Z rated tyre to a bike that ships with a Z rated tyre, just not a lesser rated tyre.

Or are you speaking of another factor, H?

[spudchucka]

Ahh, ok what if it's an Suzuki RE5 or JPS Norton rotary then??

It would be no great loss as far as I'm concerned, blow them all up f**ken iritating bastards.

[Oscar]

I pulled in the clutch to drop it into second, revved the shit out of it and popped the clutch to get out of the way faster, couldnt brake as there was a car directly behind me up my arse (typical Auckland scenario...) I didnt spend any money getting loud pipes, i didnt mod them either, the previous owner did.....

As for talking about my riding ability, how about you judge that after riding with me, but since many people have ridden with me off this site, how about you read their comments.....

I agree with your original statement partly, and your entitled to your opinion, but its generalisations which create the downfall for things.... ie if a bike crashes and the rider dies, therefore all bikes are death traps, stupid generalisation isnt it..... Same can be said about exhuasts there is the odd fuck head out there, but sometimes it works and does domething right

So do you make a habit of red-lining your bike before engaging a lower gear?
Somewhat risky technique, no? Almost as risky as passing a 4x4 on the left, in Auckland? Marked lanes or not, I find this a suicidal proposition...

As for generalisations, aren't we discussing the generalisation which you posted in support of - Loud Bikes save Lives???

[spudchucka]

Of course most bikes have a little button on the left handlebar to notify cars that are about to encroach on thier space.

Ya can't hear it over the V2 rumble. Beep, Beep - it doesn't exactly say "get the f**k out of my way" does it!

[Two Smoker]

So do you make a habit of red-lining your bike before engaging a lower gear?
Somewhat risky technique, no? Almost as risky as passing a 4x4 on the left, in Auckland? Marked lanes or not, I find this a suicidal proposition...

As for generalisations, aren't we discussing the generalisation which you posted in support of - Loud Bikes save Lives???

I do not make a habit of it, but do so when wanting to make a quick move, ie when im on the start line whilst racing, im not going to take of normally, im going to get close to the redline and slip the clutch to get a fast takeoff, it is a 150 2 stroke so not exactly a power creator, therefore it is not a risky technique, if anyone know about pushing a RG150 to its limits its me.....

No we are not discussing the generalisation, i am saying there are instances where it can help..... It was marked lanes and im sure as hell not going to sit behind a 4x4 doing 45kmh on hillsborough road, where the average speed of cars is 70.... thats just asking me to be shunted from behind which i see as being worse....

[Oscar]

I do not make a habit of it, but do so when wanting to make a quick move, ie when im on the start line whilst racing, im not going to take of normally, im going to get close to the redline and slip the clutch to get a fast takeoff, it is a 150 2 stroke so not exactly a power creator, therefore it is not a risky technique, if anyone know about pushing a RG150 to its limits its me.....

No we are not discussing the generalisation, i am saying there are instances where it can help..... It was marked lanes and im sure as hell not going to sit behind a 4x4 doing 45kmh on hillsborough road, where the average speed of cars is 70.... thats just asking me to be shunted from behind which i see as being worse....

I'm sorry, but I'm still skeptical.
You are saying that a guy driving a diesel 4x4 heard your RG150 (with a standard muffler) and it saved your life? Did the driver tell you? How do you know he just didn't see you in his mirror?

I once avoided a collision by kicking a car door - should this be encouraged too?

[Drunken Monkey]

As for generalisations, aren't we discussing the generalisation which you posted in support of - Loud Bikes save Lives???

eh? The thread is titled:

"We listened, now kindly naff off..."

My actual point was how the LTSA have handled the issue, although my closing comment was indeed:

"I don't know about you fellas, but I think seeing as we're hard enough for cage drivers to SEE, I would also like to give them an opportunity to possibly HEAR me coming before they cut me off."

Hardly an attempt at making some sort of rash generalisation like 'loud bikes save lives'.

Some people posted examples of where they felt the noise was, in at least a partial factor, the reason an accident was avoided.

So are you discussing a statement which hasn't even been stated?