Advance ignition..

**degrom** · 8th January 2007, 12:27

I have seen this on a few sites....

Why would you want top advance your ignition?

Is it worth the trouble...

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/ASF_HT_ign_adv.asp

**kiwifruit** · 8th January 2007, 12:30

is your bike a "modern" zx10? (ie; zx10r)
if so, the timing is retarded in the first 4 gears so a TRE will make a difference. It will make it smoother and "keener".

EDIT; yours is an older one innit..... sorry, please ignore the above

**degrom** · 8th January 2007, 12:49

Originally Posted by kiwifruit

is your bike a "modern" zx10? (ie; zx10r)
if so, the timing is retarded in the first 4 gears so a TRE will make a difference. It will make it smoother and "keener".

EDIT; yours is an older one innit..... sorry, please ignore the above

Okay.. So what retard, retarded the new ZX-10R's?

Is it a way to limit the power?

**Cajun** · 8th January 2007, 12:59

no your bike is limited in the first 4 gears, aka you don't get the full hp at under 1/2 throttle per say, this unlimits this by telling your bike its in 5th gear, and will also remove the speed limiter which set at 298km/h or something silly like that

**kiwifruit** · 8th January 2007, 13:09

Originally Posted by degrom

Okay.. So what retard, retarded the new ZX-10R's?

lol,
i think its an attempt to stop people flipping them

**Cajun** · 8th January 2007, 13:40

they retard them in fact to stop the stupid american kids buying them and killing themselfs, not a good way to do business, since you don't have repeat business, you just want th em to crash, and not die, so you can on sell parts etc.

the gsxr have been doing this to there bikes for years, but there work around is alot simlar than the kawasaki mod

**riffer** · 8th January 2007, 13:51

Another reason they retard the ignition is to lower the HP for different markets.

You can buy ignition advance kits, where you pretty much unbolt one plate and bolt on another.

Read more at the factory pro site.

**Coyote** · 8th January 2007, 14:12

Originally Posted by Cajun

they retard them in fact to stop the stupid american kids buying them and killing themselfs, not a good way to do business, since you don't have repeat business, you just want th em to crash, and not die, so you can on sell parts etc.

Oooo. So I could get a 04-05 ZX10R and not kill myself immediately?

**Cajun** · 8th January 2007, 14:26

Originally Posted by Coyote

Oooo. So I could get a 04-05 ZX10R and not kill myself immediately?

well anything is possible.

**Brian d marge** · 8th January 2007, 16:01

in a perfect world everythings sposed to happen at TDC ,,, but beware young grasshopper , with advance comes heat .....

Advance toward the pinky monkey!, the back of a tad !

Stephen

**Coyote** · 8th January 2007, 16:35

Originally Posted by Cajun

well anything is possible.

So it is. Just they're depreciating well as RG's are going up in value, which is making the temptation of getting one even stronger. I know it's stupid but it would an awesome time before I hurt it/myself

**Coyote** · 8th January 2007, 16:37

Originally Posted by Brian d'marge

in a perfect world everythings sposed to happen at TDC ,,, but beware young grasshopper , with advance comes heat .....

Advance toward the pinky monkey!, the back of a tad !

Stephen

TDC? Pink Monkey?

**degrom** · 8th January 2007, 17:14

Originally Posted by Coyote

TDC? Pink Monkey?

Tasman District Council... They look after the monkeys!!!

**riffer** · 8th January 2007, 18:27

Ummm. I'm pretty sure that TDC is top dead centre, and the pinky monkey is the little feller that keeps dropping the little steel marbles in the motor when you wind on the power with too much advance (pinking).

I think what Stephen meant was "Advance towards the pinky monkey, then back off a tad..."