ZX7R Vs ZX10R

[Karma]

I've just upgraded to the gixxer k1 thousand, it's easily as big as the 7r, but has a shedload more power.

I have seen a 700 bored out to 900 cc, but personally once the carbs start getting that big it can be a pain in the ass, I used to have to use choke and that all the time on my 4r, but never have to on the gix.

[Clivoris]

Do you have an online link to these articles? or the issue number?

Sorry mate. I scab them from the Welly Library. They were around the middle of last year though.

[Paulus]

I rode an 04 ZX-10R myself a few weeks back. It was strong but certainly didn't pop the front up at 120kph with me on board. In fact it actually felt a little slow through the midrange compared to my 98 R1 (several roll on tests have confirmed this). It did have a noticeably stronger top end pull however.

The front brakes were some weird two stage affair with very little and then suddenly lots of power. Has anyone else noticed this?

I felt you sat up on top of the bike rather than in it. The pegs were very high. Suspension action was pretty harsh. Handling was quick and skittery - again very like the old R1.

I liked it a lot but I no longer feel the strong urge to upgrade my current bike (just as well as I've just bought a new car). I felt that it wasn't as big of an improvement as I had been led to believe by all the magazine reviews. Still a great bike though. Pity about what they did to the styling in 06.

[-df-]

I rode an 04 ZX-10R myself a few weeks back. It was strong but certainly didn't pop the front up at 120kph with me on board. In fact it actually felt a little slow through the midrange compared to my 98 R1 (several roll on tests have confirmed this). It did have a noticeably stronger top end pull however.

The front brakes were some weird two stage affair with very little and then suddenly lots of power. Has anyone else noticed this?

I felt you sat up on top of the bike rather than in it. The pegs were very high. Suspension action was pretty harsh. Handling was quick and skittery - again very like the old R1.

I liked it a lot but I no longer feel the strong urge to upgrade my current bike (just as well as I've just bought a new car). I felt that it wasn't as big of an improvement as I had been led to believe by all the magazine reviews. Still a great bike though. Pity about what they did to the styling in 06.

the 120km/h was in first with just wind back on throttle from 50km/h and weight over the handle bars (110kg I might add....time for a run me thinks)...this one definatly lifted the front very easy...pretty sure it was standard as well.

The brakes was something else I forgot to mention, I did notice they seemed to be just on, or very on...didn't put much thought into it until you said that...figured I just wasnt' used to it

Riding position is exactly as you said, definatly sitting on the bike rather then in it.

[kiwifruit]

Pity about what they did to the styling in 06.

BOOOYAH!

i agree

[Karma]

Wheelies
All litre bikes have the potential to wheelie, just some do it easier than others

Seating
Depends what you're looking for really... seems bikes are now following the fashion world and starting to get bikes looking slightly anorexic, not my style or that comfy for a guy my size, so in this case a slightly older bike, being a bit bigger, might suit you better, the loss of power would be negligable really.

[Matt Bleck]

Pity about what they did to the styling in 06.

BOOOYAH!

i agree

you guys just got no class!!

[deeknow]

I'd probably be better off either getting a ZX7RR as I've read those engines can make some nice power with a few mods or putting a ZX9R engine in.

not really much point in swapping for a ZX7RR, there really arent that many differences, the ZX9 powerplant option tho seems popular, I thought about it for awhile when I had my ZX7R, check these articles out if you havent already...

* http://homepage.ntlworld.com/webzxr/...s/sigvart.html
* http://homepage.ntlworld.com/webzxr/...s/skydork.html
* http://www.brgracing.com/zx7-9.html

oh, and you might be interested in my wiki where I've kept notes on the various teams and riders who competed on the RR over the years...

* http://www.deeknow.com/wiki/view.pl/KIndex

[T.W.R]

[QUOTE=deeknow;893926]not really much point in swapping for a ZX7RR, there really arent that many differences, the ZX9 powerplant option tho seems popular.

There are enough differences between a std ZX7R & a RR WSB homoligin special to be really noticable

ZX9 repowers have been happening for years

[deeknow]

There are enough differences between a std ZX7R & a RR WSB homoligin special to be really noticable

Ahhh, not as far as the powerplant goes, which is what I think he's looking to improve. Other than uprated flatside carbs on the RR (from 39 to 41mm) I don't think there was any diff powerplant wise (tho I guess the close-ratio box would also help w performance, either that or the el-cheapo slip in a smaller front sprog option which is what I did to mine :-)

[Damon]

Do you have an online link to these articles? or the issue number?

I think i have that issue at home, i'll have a look and PDF it if i can find it

[DMNTD:Me]

you guys just got no class!!

Bloody oats!! Ok the standard cans look "average" but I sorted that good 'n proper :yes
As you were....:

[-df-]

I think i have that issue at home, i'll have a look and PDF it if i can find it

That would be awesome if you could

[redr1]

I still think the ZX7 is 1 of the most beautiful bikes around. Wish Kwaka had continued its development like Suzuki did with the GSXR750. I test rode an 06 ZX10 and in standard suspension setting, the rear was way too hard for mean and I am quite light. The back would skip out in corners over the smallest bump. Easily adjusted though. Also found the low rpm response not quite as good as the GSXR1000, CBR or R1. Good top end.

[N4CR]

i still think the zx7 is 1 of the most beautiful bikes around. wish kwaka had continued its development like suzuki did with the gsxr750. i test rode an 06 zx10 and in standard suspension setting, the rear was way too hard for mean and i am quite light. the back would skip out in corners over the smallest bump. easily adjusted though. also found the low rpm response not quite as good as the gsxr1000, cbr or r1. good top end.

get rid of the secondary throttle valves on the 10r with a pc3r or just take them out and remap with pc3 to avoid hazardous af ratios and you'll be a'sh1ttin yaself down low. the zx14 makes +20ft/lbs and +10hp more at 3krpm or so with them removed. nuff said.