ZX7R Vs ZX10R

**-df-** · 12th January 2007, 10:05

Originally Posted by redr1

I still think the ZX7 is 1 of the most beautiful bikes around. Wish Kwaka had continued its development like Suzuki did with the GSXR750.

I'd have to agree with you there, my second (probably only because I've loved the look of the 7R for so long) favourite looking bike is the one in your garage...the 2004 onwards R1 is a damn sexy bike.

Might have to test ride one of them as well and see how she goes.

**Paulus** · 12th January 2007, 10:12

Originally Posted by -df-

I'd have to agree with you there, my second (probably only because I've loved the look of the 7R for so long) favourite looking bike is the one in your garage...the 2004 onwards R1 is a damn sexy bike.

Might have to test ride one of them as well and see how she goes.

Compared to the ZX-10R the word I'd use for the 04+ R1 would be refined. It does everything well but is a tad less exciting to ride than the Kwacka (I rode an 06 R1 back to back with the 04 ZX-10R). Deceptively fast.

**-df-** · 12th January 2007, 10:27

just wondering as I never took it all the way in first gear, but what speed are you redlining the 10R in first? cause at 5k it was doing 70ish km/h...which means something like 150-160km/h...

Was this bike just geared high or is that what they actually do?

**N4CR** · 12th January 2007, 10:54

Originally Posted by -df-

just wondering as i never took it all the way in first gear, but what speed are you redlining the 10r in first? cause at 5k it was doing 70ish km/h...which means something like 150-160km/h...

was this bike just geared high or is that what they actually do?

'06 does 165 bouncing off the limiter

**redr1** · 12th January 2007, 13:04

Originally Posted by -df-

I'd have to agree with you there, my second (probably only because I've loved the look of the 7R for so long) favourite looking bike is the one in your garage...the 2004 onwards R1 is a damn sexy bike.

Might have to test ride one of them as well and see how she goes.

I have to say the R1 has exceptional handling and good all round performance. My rear suspension is set hard, but it does not skitter like the ZX10 and thats testing both on Metzeler Sportec M1s. I can give it full power out of fast corners and it handles it well, even with a bumpy road. It also seems to carry faster corner speed which really shows in sweeping corners. I reckon it will give the new 600s a good run for their money in the twisties.

**Paulus** · 12th January 2007, 13:24

Originally Posted by redr1

I have to say the R1 has exceptional handling and good all round performance. My rear suspension is set hard, but it does not skitter like the ZX10 and thats testing both on Metzeler Sportec M1s. I can give it full power out of fast corners and it handles it well, even with a bumpy road. It also seems to carry faster corner speed which really shows in sweeping corners. I reckon it will give the new 600s a good run for their money in the twisties.

I noticed this too. Performance in bumpy corners was way better than my old R1.

**crash harry** · 12th January 2007, 13:26

Originally Posted by -df-

Do you have an online link to these articles? or the issue number?

I'd probably be better off either getting a ZX7RR as I've read those engines can make some nice power with a few mods or putting a ZX9R engine in.

I think the weight is half the reason the bike handles so well around courners, you just have to know how to throw the bike around...Why would I want it to lose any weight?? As I said before, I want a ZX7R with the power of a 10R...now thats a bike I'd be keeping for a long time.

What you want is a 9R then... maybe not quite the stonk of the 10R, but close, and similar weight to the 7R. I love my 9R, best handling bike (for my big fat arse anyway) that I've ridden. I know what you mean about it feeling more planted in the corners, I feel the same way about the 9R vs the 'busa.

**-df-** · 12th January 2007, 13:34

Originally Posted by crash harry

What you want is a 9R then... maybe not quite the stonk of the 10R, but close, and similar weight to the 7R. I love my 9R, best handling bike (for my big fat arse anyway) that I've ridden. I know what you mean about it feeling more planted in the corners, I feel the same way about the 9R vs the 'busa.

Never been a big fan of the looks of the 9R, they are a nice bike, but I just love the looks of my 7R...I just need your engine...wana swap?

**speed63** · 12th January 2007, 19:36

good review

what you have with comparisons - test rides is the attachment/comfort you have with your own bike that influences your view. i had a c1 9r and loved it. spent $$$ on it.
took the plunge and upgraded to 05 10r. takes awhile to get used to the change. the whole package.

the 10r does feel nervous on the road. i like it as you never get bored. it comes into its own on the track(MasterBike). i have sorted mine now with a lot of tweaking. there is no comparison to the 9r. there is a 10 year technology difference between them.

**Gremlin** · 12th January 2007, 23:01

7r. Most one has been bored to, to my knowledge, is about 1024cc. 9r transplant is common. Other common ones are the crank from an earlier model, about 793cc, or the big bore kit, around 810cc I think. Really comes down to how much you want to spend, as you really can spend shitloads modifying the bike.

Compared to a 04 10r... I had one for a couple of very wet days. Found it very behaved, until I let the revs run on, going up a hill, and found myself without traction once the power came on

Got used to the seating very quickly, and loved how nimble it was. Roll on excellent, yada yada. Handling I thought was quite good... I'm struggling to figure out if it something bad on it, as it was better than an 06, when it should be the other way around. Mind you, I never nailed it, partly for license reasons, and also knowing it would lose traction, rather than wheelie.

Downside, I feel I could ride the 7r harder, and in corners, I feel like I can just keep on leaning. 10r, more power to watch for, can't just nail it through corners (well, until I get used to it).

On the whole... 10r... the 7 just doesn't have the power, I feel like its lacking. Hard choice indeed... but yeah, once you have played with the more powerful bikes, you notice where the 7 is lacking, mostly braking hard into downhill corners, you feel the weight.

PM me an email addy if you want a scanned copy of an article in PB, I have one. (Their mods ranged in effect and cost - again depends how far you want to go)

The biggest issue for me, is trying to compare bikes that I wouldn't even own. ie, any one I owned would be quite modified, similar to my 7, so riding stock stuff is sorta pointless.

I just need to steal gareth's 10 off him

**-df-** · 13th January 2007, 09:35

Yeah I guess alot of it is just me being in my comfort zone with the 7R. Definatly know what people are talking about when they say its a bit on the slow side now.

One thing that still annoys me about the 7R is its wheelie ability...either I just can't crack the bike, or I suck...thing is I can wheelie my mrs rgv150 a hell of a lot better then the 7r...which is just weird...

Gremlin: PM sent, cheers

**deeknow** · 13th January 2007, 12:26

Originally Posted by -df-

One thing that still annoys me about the 7R is its wheelie ability...

I dropped a tooth on the front sprocket on mine, makes a world of difference, drops some top speed of course but definately lightens up the front under power

**N4CR** · 13th January 2007, 13:01

Originally Posted by gremlin

i'm struggling to figure out if it something bad on it, as it was better than an 06, when it should be the other way around. mind you, i never nailed it, partly for license reasons, and also knowing it would lose traction, rather than wheelie.

bone stock vs modded 10 no comparo....

**Madmax** · 13th January 2007, 13:31

the stock 04 ZX10Rs are plenty of fun but
i think i ride best on a ZX7R its just not so
brutal on the gas and does not spend as
much time on the back wheel
(the 10 when ridien hard the front wheel just skims the ground most off the time)