Does Fast Track Riding = Fast Road Riding

[DEATH_INC.]

I know a couple of circuit racers,fairly accomplished one's,that are only average on the road,the fastest racers that I know on the road are MX guys.......

[moko]

I think things are maybe different for you blokes in N.Z. but here filtering,lane-splitting whatever you call it is legal.the sign of a good rider here is one that can zip through traffic quickly and safely.In Summer when the rich gits get their toys out you can always spot them,they`re the ones sitting in the traffic queue just like they do in their poxy Volvo when it`s a bit chilly.the real art is getting your timing right so you avoid stopping at traffic lights for any longer than nescessary,I`ll slow right down as I approach the head of a queue then accelerate as the lights change,best time was when 2 guys were having an "across-lane" chat at the front,out of devilment I was trickling along,having seen them hanging out of their windows,until the lights turned Amber and it was a big handful of throttle and a look in the mirrors to see 2 heads disappear bloody quick as I shot between them doing 60 m.p.h.

[Sensei]

I ride with a couple of Racer's & are just as fast as myself on the road . Mainly because they know the road's as well as me . I don't know whether I would fair as well against them on the track .Have only done a couple of track day's with good skill's been learnt from the other rider's . Didn't get left behind by the Race guy's so maybe the Road skill's do help alittle . Would have to do some proper racing to see how crappy I really was I suppose Sensei

[Two Smoker]

Well the only racers ive ridden with is MR and KK, and they are both bloody fast on the track and road

[White trash]

I know a few people who sustain high touring speeds but just cruise at the track. I think the difference is on the road, they maintain a very high speed. Bugger all braking or accelleration. Just fast.

At the track, they're going alot faster on the straights but brake a whole lot earlier and are not really sure how to judge upcoming corner speeds.

I'm just slow everywhere. :disapint:

[FROSTY:Me]

well we will see just how slow on saturday hu wt

[White trash]

Tell ya one thing, brother.

That Johann Bruns character is gonna get the hiding of his life!



















From Nicko..........

[Paul in NZ]

Going fast on a bike is about technique, control, attitude and most of all, how much risk you are prepared to handle! The laws of physics apply equally to all of us, ability and RISK are the variables..

On the road, a poor rider can easily appear fast buy taking what others consider unacceptable risk. A competent (read fast) rider appears slow because they don't want to take on too much risk.

Get away with just one silly passing move in traffic going over the Rimutakas and you are virually uncatchable.. Does that genuinely make you a fast road rider?? No, not really, it just makes you foolhardy..

Some people think I can ride OK. Others think of me as a mobile chicane' on the road or the track.... Just how hard can I ride?? I don't really know and have little interest in finding out these days. I've looked into the eyes of god on a number of bends and I didn't see anything I didn't already know or couldn't find out in a book or on the 'net.

I'm fast enough for my own skin.

Paul N

Likes bikes that feel fast at slow speeds

[NordieBoy]

I think certain types of riding suit certain types of people.
And then theres vespa riders (are they people?)

A few years back 3 vespa's finished in the Paris Dakar.

And yes it was in the same year they started it

Mad buggers.

[Two Smoker]

Tell ya one thing, brother.

That Johann Bruns character is gonna get the hiding of his life!



















From Nicko..........

LOL, is Nicko going to be at Puke on Saturday????? If he is i hope he brings his RG150 and teach me a shitload.......

[FROSTY:Me]

Im having a total rethink on this subject. main reason being just how slow i am on the zxr400.I havve come to the conclusion that most guys who have had a break from riding have come too. Sports/race bikes have come a heck of a long way in the last 10 years -as a result a good 600 rider nowadays seems to lap as fast as an 1100 rider was 10 years ago.
For me there is the need to come to grips with this situation.
To do so I think i neeed more time with bum on seat of a modern sports bike.
Time to not so much explore 11/10ths on the road but to go to 7/10ths and realise just where that is nowadays.
i think that will transfere over to a faster lap time .

[Sparky Bills]

iT DOESNT MATTER IF YOUR ON THE ROAD OR TRACK..
THE SMOOTHER YOU RIDE-THE FASTER YOU GO.
YOU DONT EVEN KNOW IT!
LOOK AT ALL OUR TOP RACERS, THEY LOOK LIKE THEY'RE OUT ON A SUNDAY RIDE!
ME ON THE OTHER HAND, IM JUST REALLY GOOD.
AS FAR AS THE WKD'S COMMENT ABOUT NO POT HOLES ON THE TRACK, HAVE YOU BEEN TO MANFEILD LATLEY? (its not that bad i guess)
Its all about being smooth!

[scroter]

i initialy found that track days made me better on the road but now im a bit of a track day addict i dont think it makesz a hell of a lot of diffence.

last year i saw karl morgan going dman quick on a gsxr600 on the track like real competitive. then at wananui he was nowhere. i asked brian bernard about this and he said it was because he had never ridden on the road before at all.

[DEATH_INC.]

Nearly a year down the track and I'm now in a better position to know the answer to this.....it doesn't matter,I'm pretty fast on the road,but get my butt kicked on the track.WT's fast on the road and track,and LB's not far behind on either too.There's a couple who can kick my ass all over the track who I can do the same to on the road.It's two totally different types of riding.Like MX and road.

[DingDong]

For me, its a confidence thing... on the track I'm prepared for injury and bike repairs, I know the risk and I accept it.
On the road I feel the risk is higher because you cant predict other drivers, tree placement (other fixed stuff) or even your own bikes reliability because it doest recieve the same attention as a race bike, I dont accept the risk where death is a consequence.

Therefore... I ride at a safe pace on the road (but not to safe as to be bored) and nuts out on the track (Im still not fast tho, but Im CrAzY and that counts)

Good question... track is safe, road is a killa