Police go away

[Squeak the Rat]

You chopped off the best part of the coppers quote ... The part where he says if she offered some sort of explanation "there just isn't one there." You're in Media, aren't you???

[doc]

She is blind, not deaf and dumb...

So she can't see the prick in the suit that he has never worn before in his life. With his face covered in tats sneering at anything white in the court. Probably just as well .

[Ixion]

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Otherwise lawyers would rip the Police to shreds for being selective on who to charge based on cirucumstances outside the law and the justice system should collapse.

Like, uh not charging Helen for this and that based on uh ah, um, well its obbvious my promotion prospects are NOT outside the law, so, ah,,,,,

[Ixion]

Oh, nuthin, jst a few pictures, n a fast trip 2 the rugby , n some piffling electn expenses n stuff like that

[candor]

Hello - am I the only one who has had amnesia in an accident??
As to what she is hiding (if anything) - you have led a very shetlered life haven't you? Ask Arthur Alan Thomas if he feels co-operating with the police (as he did) is such a good idea. It is prudent to seek legal advice in a case such as this.

Sheltered life - not at all. I was in a bangkok hilton type situation once when fanatical Police nudged their dog toward my car, seperated me from it then planted white powder in my car as they wanted a narc, and seemed to think I had info.

Lost sleep for 2 weeks while they harrassed me with the prospect of imprisonment for class A before they gave up. Dirty cops don't get results with people raised right! Police Complaint filed late 2000 - naturally went nowhere.

Yes she may have amnesia, but in my experience I've known a few crashers who claimed that when it wasn't true. A guy at a crash in which 2 of my friends died claimed Amnesia, 6 months later I got the truth out of him - needless to say his amnesia was very convenient.

Unless we are her we don't know if she had amnesia. What raises my suspicions is that she has prolly had time to talk to Police with a lawyer present by now. How long ago was that crash ? - I'd say a months or 6 weeks grace is fair.

I know what u r saying about - what does charging her achieve, but there are problems if she was negligent and is not charged. Charging does not have to be associated with punishment and I feel sure in this case it would not be the result or goal of charging. Given it was an accident

Charging tho could as others say mean that if she is a safety risk eg mentally ill, got a P habit or other such scenarios - it gets dug up and dealt to.

My mother sat on a jury in which a woman drove off a cliff and killed one of her kids in CHCH 20 yrs ago, she meant all to die. She was found guilty of whatever charged with (sanity was an issue) and just provided mental health care. If questions aren't asked / things investigated things that would sem unrel but are, do not come to light.

[Lou Girardin]

The Police can happily decide that it's 'not in the public interest' to charge Helen Clark with fraud or charge Heather Simpson with electoral offences, so why is it in the public interest to charge people like this woman?

[Paul in NZ]

Ever suffered amnesia?.

I can remember...

I have been involved 2 MV accidents which are a complete mystery to me and I would not be able to tell the police - or anyone else for that matter what happened.

Strangely enough - given the impact that remembering that you screwed up has on your insurance, not remembering exactly what happened is an astonishingly common event. I'm not disputing for a second that accident trauma does cause this but it appears wallet trauma is also a leading cause..

[Patrick]

Oh, nuthin, jst a few pictures, n a fast trip 2 the rugby , n some piffling electn expenses n stuff like that

Who died in either of these events?

[Squeak the Rat]

Who died in either of these events?

The public's belief in a fair and just system.

[Patrick]

The public's belief in a fair and just system.

Whats unfair about being charged over three people dying? The end "result" is up to the courts, as it has always been....

[Squeak the Rat]

Whats unfair about being charged over three people dying? The end "result" is up to the courts, as it has always been....

I meant unfair that Helen didn't get charged and the result left up to the courts......

[Patrick]

I meant unfair that Helen didn't get charged and the result left up to the courts......

My bad... good call...!!!

The rugby thing she is clean as... although she was a passenger and probably "incited" the driving, she says she didn't... prove it then... the bitch!

[davereid]

The system is getting a little sick i think, we may be nearing the time for a revolution...

I think that the Courts are the place for innocence and guilt to be determined and for punishment to be decided on. If the court finds that she has been punished enough already by the death of her loved ones then it won't apply extra penalties.

Sadly we now have a system where;

Its NOT in the public interest to prosecute Helen Clark for fraud
Its IS OK to prosecute policemen speeding under her orders
Its NOT OK to insist that taxpayers ripped off by government overspending get re-imbursed
It IS OK to impound vehicles at the side of the road with out a court hearing
It is NOT OK to restrict bail to murderers
It IS OK to remove drivers licences from accused speeders or drink drivers without conviction

[spudchucka]

Well, it may seem harsh, but I guess there is an expectation that cars do not crash and kill people when they are driven carefully.

So if they do crash, in the absence of any explanation of the "it happened because..." either from the driver, or from the crash investigation chappies, or witnesses etc, the police have to assume that someone was careless.

Its not an assumption. Cars don't just fall off the road for no reason, especially on dead straight pieces of road in fine weather and when there are no mechanical faults with the vehicle.

A carefull & prudent driver would make sure that didn't happen.

[spudchucka]

The Police can happily decide that it's 'not in the public interest' to charge Helen Clark with fraud or charge Heather Simpson with electoral offences, so why is it in the public interest to charge people like this woman?

Honestly Lou, what would you have done in your snaking days?