Thank you Biker GOD! (a.k.a. Illegal Parking Tickets)

**iwilde** · 18th January 2007, 19:45

Saw a warden putting a ticket on a late model Ducati for some reason, I says "having a good day?" he says "yes thanks!" and I reply "what a fucking shame wanker!"

**Drum** · 18th January 2007, 21:09

If that warden really was a biker he wouldn't have given you a speech, so he's just a try hard wannabe.

Parking wardens are generally high school dropouts and losers. No need to get all dry mouth and nervous.

**RT527** · 18th January 2007, 21:14

Originally Posted by hXc

I use their own rules against them when getting told to move off the footpath.

Technically, a footpath is a public road, as it has no gates to stop motorists from using it. Therefore, as long as you are not impeding the flow of traffic (be it foot or otherwise), you are doing nothing illegal when parking on it.

Shuts the little Nazi parking bitches up.

As i understand that rule a public road must consist of a row that is at least 1.5 mtrs wide anything under that and it isnt a public road.

**hXc** · 18th January 2007, 21:22

Originally Posted by RT527

As i understand that rule a public road must consist of a row that is at least 1.5 mtrs wide anything under that and it isnt a public road.

If I park on the footpath, it is in town. Footpaths in towns are more like 3-4 metres wide, so no problems there.

**RT527** · 18th January 2007, 21:27

Originally Posted by hXc

If I park on the footpath, it is in town. Footpaths in towns are more like 3-4 metres wide, so no problems there.

Ok forget what i just said but read this www.ltsa.govt.nz/legislation/road.html

**hXc** · 18th January 2007, 21:34

Originally Posted by RT527

Ok forget what i just said but read this www.ltsa.govt.nz/legislation/road.html

Originally Posted by LTSA site

Roads were classed as footpaths, bridleways or bridle paths, or carriageways, depending on the type of use permitted.A footpath was limited to pedestrians only, with animals added if it was a bridleway, and wheeled vehicles only allowed on a carriageway. The basic right that could be exercised on a road was that of travelling from one place to another. Obstructing or interfering with someone else's rights to the use of the road was a criminal offence.

Not like the parking wardens will be able to quote that, nor know it even exists. I haven't had a problem with them so far, I'll keep saying what I say and keep parking on the footpath.

**pyrocam** · 18th January 2007, 21:57

in auckland central I park on footpaths regularly as long as it doesnt obstuct foot traffic etc etc.

my first cold kiwi I ride down to hamilton, have a breakky at 7:30ish and park right up against the window of a netcafe so I can look up directions for the way down. 5 mins of looking at wises and a warden starts ticketing me. I run outside

'IM FROM AUCKLAND' I blurt out and then quickly recognize my mistake (shit)

basically he says 'its the law in New Zealand no matter where you are that your not allowed to park on the footpath'

yadda yadda yadda

"Ok well there is NO reason why I should let you off this ticket but im going to"
his words. its just down to the cop you get. you can get ticketed nz wide if you get the wrong warden/cop on the wrong day.

**Lias** · 19th January 2007, 13:34

My pet peeve is cages parking in bike parks, be they specifically motorbike parks or bicycle parks.

At my local stuipdmarket right by the enterance is a bike park. Its not labeled as such, but its a non standard size (wider than normal, and not enough depth to park a car in) and of course has one of those big metal holder thniges for pushbikes. It doesnt take a rocket scientists to know its not for cars.

On several occasions Its been occupied by cages.

On several occasions those cage drivers have come back to find extensive redecoration of their vehicles courtesy of my keys! One guy even had a letter sitting on his front passenger seat with his name and home address on it.. I had to resist the temptation to turn up on his doorstep and do bad things.

**hXc** · 19th January 2007, 15:44

Originally Posted by Lias

My pet peeve is cages parking in bike parks, be they specifically motorbike parks or bicycle parks.

That's when you get ya mates and you box the car in. Not only no way to get out of the park, but make sure there is no way for the occupants of said car to get in.

**Flyingpony** · 19th January 2007, 16:24

Originally Posted by Lias

On several occasions those cage drivers have come back to find extensive redecoration of their vehicles courtesy of my keys! One guy even had a letter sitting on his front passenger seat with his name and home address on it.. I had to resist the temptation to turn up on his doorstep and do bad things.

Let me just give you a warning.

Putting your key to a car you don't own is very dangerous, and illegal. If the owner spotted you, I'm sure they'll attempt to bash you pedantic head in, and the Police will not only arrest you for will-full damage but possibly save your life from the car owner harming you ...

Do you have any idea how expensive it is to fix panels that have a key taken to them? It'll be a minimum of $200 per door and it grows from there for bonnets, etc.

My advice would be the carry FYI notes and slip them under the wipers or even better, start up your own wheel clamping business and earn some cash off those who park in the wrong place.

**Ixion** · 19th January 2007, 16:41

You've never met Mr Lias , have you? I'm not sure if his moniker was inspired by pterry, but if not it is one of those delightful coincidences where real life mimic fiction.

**R1madness** · 19th January 2007, 17:47

Well when i opened my shop i applied for a motorcycle park outside it. Got a letter back saying "no thanks, there is plenty of parking for the area."
Ok i think thats good.
Day 1
The hair dresser next door complains to the council that there are bikes parked in the "car" park outside the group of shops restricting the parking for her customers.
Day 2.
Parking wardens arrive to tell me to move any bikes off the street but they are all warrented and rego ok so i say no. They leave, hair dresser comes out looking smug saying that will teach you.
Day 3
I spend all day blocking out both parks with one bike in each and swap them from one park to another every 20 mins. Tell her hope she likes it.
Day 4
I offer to make sure one park is left free of bikes at all times if she stops ringing the council.
Day 5
The council arrives again. Now i am pissed off. Heated discussions follow.
Day 6
I get the council out to look at options. We come up with the parking in the space between the footpath and the building as an option for displaying bikes outside. I agree to maintain the 1 bike free park option as best i can.

Day 7 until now 9 months later
Uneasy truce between hairdersser and us. things ok but then someone ( a customer) parks on the footpath and all hell brakes loose. Council rung. Tickets threatened. Tempers flair.

Today
Meeting with council and agreement reached over the addition of 1 signed and marked motorcycle park. No bikes to be parked on footpath except in the space between shop frontage and footpath.

Funny thats what i wrote to the council and asked for 8 months ago.

Moral of the story is do not allow yourself to be pushed around. Fight if you have something to fight for.

**Lias** · 19th January 2007, 21:37

Originally Posted by Flyingpony

If the owner spotted you, I'm sure they'll attempt to bash you pedantic head in.

Do you have any idea how expensive it is to fix panels that have a key taken to them? It'll be a minimum of $200 per door and it grows from there for bonnets, etc.

My advice would be the carry FYI notes and slip them under the wipers or even better, start up your own wheel clamping business and earn some cash off those who park in the wrong place.

I know panelwork isnt cheap, but to be honest I consider the keying a "cheap" objective lesson. I've been known to slice all 4 tyre sidewalls on cars before (slice the side rather than stab, that way there is no way in hell they can get them repaired)

Yes i'm well aware its illegal, but as the prosecutor tells the magistrate "The defendant has appeared before your honour". Parking in the wrong carpark is illegal too in most places, but the police hardly turn up with sirens blazing for parking offences, and I doubt they'd be very much faster for someones paintwork getting a bit scratched.

And as the astute old fella points out I'm built somewhat like my namesake.. Who happens to be a troll :-P In the greater scheme of things I'm far more likely to be the basher than the bashed.

**Steam** · 19th January 2007, 21:49

This guy sounds like you Lias...
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=42056

Originally Posted by Fub@r

My missus called me earlier today about a car vs bike altercation in the St Lukes carpark today.

Apparently some old guy (70's) somehow knocked over a guys bike in the carpark. Some bystanders helped him pick the bike up. The old guy left all his details on the bike for insurance etc and making his aplogies etc.

Guy that owns the bike returns, reads the note. Then turns pulls out a sharp object and slashed the old guys tyres then rides off.

I know I would be pissed off if my bike got knocked over, but to slash his tyres even though he had left all his insurance details for you. Most people in this day and age would have driven off and left it on the ground!