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    Yes,a very cool bit of kit,I remember the flames from the old bike on overrun,
    Fantastic!!
    I wonder who would ride it??
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    That is one VERY sexy looking bike!
    Manual shutoff override on the electronic throttle? They have plenty of confidence in the electronics then?
    I guess it could be worse, the Italians could have supplied the electronic componentry
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    so, Steve Spray to ride it. That'll be one to watch, he certainly knew his way around the Norton Rotary's of old.

    So the NRV588 should either be compared to an 1176cc four stroke twin....

    If this is the case, conveniently fits under the SBK rules Ducati wants to adopt re 1200 twins....now THAT would be one to watch...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayRacer37 View Post
    so, Steve Spray to ride it. That'll be one to watch, he certainly knew his way around the Norton Rotary's of old.

    So the NRV588 should either be compared to an 1176cc four stroke twin....

    If this is the case, conveniently fits under the SBK rules Ducati wants to adopt re 1200 twins....now THAT would be one to watch...
    it would hav traction isusse at high revs dude....I doubt it would be much good in wsbk...three power pulses per crankshaft reviloution...it would wheel spin like a bitch!! the older ones didn't make as much power..but if the wsbk version came to the track it would hav to hav compeditive HP so would be 200-210hp...it would just hav to much holding it back from being compeditive...still be good to see...and I'ld love to be proven wrong...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cowpoos View Post
    it would hav traction isusse at high revs dude....I doubt it would be much good in wsbk...three power pulses per crankshaft reviloution...it would wheel spin like a bitch!! the older ones didn't make as much power..but if the wsbk version came to the track it would hav to hav compeditive HP so would be 200-210hp...it would just hav to much holding it back from being compeditive...still be good to see...and I'ld love to be proven wrong...
    Yes, true. But then sometimes 'big-bang' isn't always the best way. Two-strokes are brilliant to ride on the track due to their very quick and neutral throttle pick-up, 'cause there firing more often. Mick Doohan wrecked Max Biaggi and Alex Criville's careers when he got the 'screamer' format back from the big bang, and HRC wouldn't allow Biaggi and Criville to have a supposedly harder to ride and more snappy screamer. they thought that the screamer had more top end etc etc. Mick said later it was just to screw with them, there was no real diffrence in between them, since tyre technology caught up from the early '90's!! Maybe it could happen...definitly be a diffrent noise in WSB!

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    That is awesome news - i hope they go productions. Would love to see a test between that and the daytona 675

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    Feb 2,3,4, Pukekohe Classic Festival TT Spectacular . A Norton 588 Rotary (third version) from the Birmingham National Motorcycle Museum will be ridden by Steve Spray. The meeting this year is celebrating 100 years of Isle of Man racing with a lot of UK bikes being shipped over for the weekend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonbuoy View Post
    Would be nice to hear one going flat out, hope they make it into a road going version.
    Check this link got some good old clips, need (RealPlayer)

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    the Italians could have supplied the electronic componentry. i havent had any electrics crap out in over 20 years of italian bikes. may be i'm lucky.... hang on there has been a few batterys but they were jap. best music played at the TT have been hailwood on a ducati, and the mighty Britten V1000. better not forget the Mv's.

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    Rotaries definitely have the p/w ratio to be competitive...

    Cooling will be the biggest issue, modern ceramics have pretty much taken care of core engine reliability during race conditions (the 1991 787B won the 24hr Le Mans race with a practically flat power delivery curve and almost no engine wear visible on post-race disassembly) and the naturally good balance of the design means that power delivery is smooth - the torque curve on rotary is pretty much a straight line - the faster it revs, the more torque is produced. But still, overheat a rotary and it is going to die.

    Get the cooling to be foolproof and the bike will run, and possibly win races. Mess it up (and due to the shape of the combustion chamber, and the fact the rotors revolve 'in the middle' of the housings - its easier said than done to cool a rotary without lots of extra weight and complexity) and they'll be breaking down every race.

    Theres a 50cc gokart rotary producing ~40-50hp - The AIXRO XR50. I've never heard of a 50hp 50cc 2-stroke, let alone anything like that from a 4-stroke.

    http://www.nova-racing.com/nova_gb/index.htm

    That would make an interesting transplant for the old street magic.

    Scale that power/displacement ratio up to 588cc (obviously unfeasible as its not a linear relationship, but still...) and Norton could be onto something.

    Theres also rotamax (rotamax.net) who are developing a single-rotor 150cc unit, that given some serious tuning might make a decent bike power plant, but i'm not sure when that will actually appear.


    I'd love to see the rotary used in bikes again - Go Norton!

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    Hmm, seems the XR50 isn't a 50cc engine.

    doh, it seems the XR50 engine actually displaces 250cc. Respectable, but not so impressive. Doesn't require a gearbox to drive a go-kart though, which is interesting.

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