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    cyfswatch

    Got sent the link today.

    Scary stuff.

    Make up your own minds.
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    One way or the other, your link there will probably bump CYFSWATCH's PageRank an order of magnitude during the next Google spider run.

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    Read the top blog on cyfswatch.

    They claim the govt is in collusion with google to have search results for cyfswatch blocked.

    Personally I think its paranoid bollocks, but you never know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by riffer View Post
    They claim the govt is in collusion with google to have search results for cyfswatch blocked.
    Nah. I reckon that it's just Google working as designed. Once the cyfswatch URL gets out there and people start linking to it, cyfswatch will start hopping up the search results list for 'CYFS' quicker than you can say "if only all social workers were as nice as Cathy".
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    Quote Originally Posted by riffer View Post
    Got sent the link today.

    Scary stuff.

    Make up your own minds.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fish View Post
    One way or the other, your link there will probably bump CYFSWATCH's PageRank an order of magnitude during the next Google spider run.

    Nice.
    Quote Originally Posted by riffer View Post
    Read the top blog on cyfswatch.

    They claim the govt is in collusion with google to have search results for cyfswatch blocked.

    Personally I think its paranoid bollocks, but you never know.
    Hard to believe guys. you make this cyfswatch thing sound like a conspiracy. What would CYFS themselves have to say about it do you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by riffer View Post
    Read the top blog on cyfswatch.

    They claim the govt is in collusion with google to have search results for cyfswatch blocked.

    Personally I think its paranoid bollocks, but you never know.
    Well, if they are, it's not working.
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    Of course if you're really keen put a link to it in your signature... it'd be 1000's of inserts - in a heartbeat!
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    Apparently cyfs have asked google to do something about it. 'It' being the internet.


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    ten miserable characters...
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    And I to my motorcycle parked like the soul of the junkyard. Restored, a bicycle fleshed with power, and tore off. Up Highway 106 continually drunk on the wind in my mouth. Wringing the handlebar for speed, wild to be wreckage forever.

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    Well I had trouble finding it initially. Read a couple of stories and that was all I could take. If they are true the CYF's staff or some are shockers on power trips. I guess some of their decisions will have subjective elements but there was one where a mum smacked not in anger doing no harm (sounded not too bright) but felt bad due I s'pose to anti smacking publicity so turned herself in. Result was psyc assessment. Finding was that she was fine. Social worker kicked her out of her house and prevented contact with her family / husband for months. When she returned it was with all these dumb restrictions. OMG No stay night, no driving kids etc Story sounded genuine 'nuff.

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    1. CYFS is a government department. It operates within the mandate set by the Government.
    2. Staff are subject to scrutiny and review from various sources, including Parliament and the general media. As agents of Government policy they should not be individually ridiculed or lambasted for deficiencies in Government social policy or New Zealand's general blase attitude to domestic violence.
    3. CYFS cannot solve New Zealand's obsession with domestic violence, abuse and neglect. It is, at best, an ambulance at the bottom of a cliff.
    4. Web sites like the CYFS blog are a bit like the Snapt site -- titillation for ranting voyeurs and outraged "experts".
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    Quote Originally Posted by riffer View Post
    ten miserable characters...
    22 actually.
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    Hitcher,you have such a lovely way with words & its all truth!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
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    2. Staff are subject to scrutiny and review from various sources, including Parliament and the general media. ,,
    I'm not so sure about that bit. Inevitably, given the personal nature of its activities, they are not readily amenable to media scrutiny. It is only when something goes horrendously wrong in a very public way that 'public good' is sufficent to outweigh the policy of confidentiality (which some could re-express as secrecy). And very few government departments are really subject to the scrutiny of Parliament. Any invigilatory activities of Parliament went the way of the dodo at least 100 years ago.

    One objection raised by the contributors to the site is the lack of any effective appeal mechanism. Purportedly those that apparently exist, such as the Commissioner for Children, do not have resources to investigate indidual cases, unless they are indicative of systemic issues.

    That seems unsatisfactory. Given the profound effect of the decisions of the department on people's lives there should be rigorous and accessible appeal processes. Certainly the degree of discretionary power allowed to officials appears very great indeed (far more than that enjoyed by the police) , and the checks and balances that one might expect to see are not markedly visible. Moreover, in such matters, time is often of importance. Justice delayed may well be justice denied, and appeal processes that drag on for years do not commend themselves.

    Whether such a forum is likely to achieve that objective is another matter.

    I should add that I have never had any dealings whatsoever with the department, nor do I know anyone who has, so any coment I make must necessarily be based on report and general principle. But neither the department nor the Minister seem to have refuted the question of inadequacy in the appeal process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
    1. CYFS is a government department. It operates within the mandate set by the Government.
    2. Staff are subject to scrutiny and review from various sources, including Parliament and the general media. As agents of Government policy they should not be individually ridiculed or lambasted for deficiencies in Government social policy or New Zealand's general blase attitude to domestic violence.
    3. CYFS cannot solve New Zealand's obsession with domestic violence, abuse and neglect. It is, at best, an ambulance at the bottom of a cliff.
    4. Web sites like the CYFS blog are a bit like the Snapt site -- titillation for ranting voyeurs and outraged "experts".
    Compare and contrast....just like the Plod CYFS have a lot of power that they can wield without much in the way of checks and controls...stories of Cops and their abuse of power are thick on the ground on this site.
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