Originally Posted by Curious_AJ
'Cept alcohol is known depressant! Works against medication, too, so should avoid it. Friends, on the other hand are invaluable!
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'Cept alcohol is known depressant! Works against medication, too, so should avoid it. Friends, on the other hand are invaluable!
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
Shorai Powersports batteries are very trick!
Has left the building
No sorry I can't remember but shall keep an eye out for you
Better now sir?
psytrance junkie
i dont take medication... dont put shit into my body thanks... but alcohol relaxes me which is good.. i dont drink that much either, so its not like its that bad... but i do agree with the friends comment.
"Take life one day at a time. Make mistakes. Learn from them. Come out a better person. Never regret the things that have gotten you where you are today."
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I used to think that way about medication, too. However, sometimes it is neccessary and nowadays needn't be stigmatised. I do think there are effective coping strategies in many circumstances that can be learned and used, either in place of or supplementary to medication, but if your Dr. whom you have confidence and trust in, recommends a trial of an anti-depressant, it would be advisable to give heed.
Alcohol is a surprisingly powerful drug and a deceiver. It has the apparent effect of relaxation but in reality it is truly a depressant and compounds the problem. I'm not against alcohol per se, but caution against its use if depressed.
Friends rock!
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
Shorai Powersports batteries are very trick!
psytrance junkie
yes... meh... i just go with the flow... not much else to do at the moment.. ill let it sort itself out... but yes, i refuse to go to my doctor let alone getting medication heh... call it an irrational fear.. but yes.. i refuse unless im actually in dire need to go...
i dont shun people who do use medication though, its personal pref... by all means if someone thinks they need it then they should do it... but im not going to take anti-depressants especially because i knwo of things that they can do to someone ...
"Take life one day at a time. Make mistakes. Learn from them. Come out a better person. Never regret the things that have gotten you where you are today."
Forum whore
Yep, that's what I'd call it.
Usually, the person doesn't think they need it, that's one of the insidious things about depression. I suspect you believe that if you went to your Dr. he would recommend medication. Usually it is for a two-three week trial at low dose then a reappraisal, with the option of discontinuing or adjusting the dose and /or the type, to suit.
I suspect, too, that the things you "know" about the effects are not really from an examination of the medical facts and evidence or from talking it over with a professional, but from hearsay?
Gotta go now, but catch up tomorrow.
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
Shorai Powersports batteries are very trick!
psytrance junkie
not from hearsay, i have read them in medical journals and have talked to a few professionals about it...
but still ... no doctor mate... its out of the question...
"Take life one day at a time. Make mistakes. Learn from them. Come out a better person. Never regret the things that have gotten you where you are today."
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Ok, enough now. No more slagging please. Those who subscribe to the "harden up" philosophy can state their viewpoint, and those who don't can disagree, but please stop with the personal invective. Infractions waiting for those who do.
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Sigh. Well, that didn't take long , did it. I've removed some of the more vitriolic posts, while understanding the emotions that prompt them, they do tend to set things on a downward spiral.
Couth and courteous , please, people. The supply of infractions *is* unlimited, you know.
psytrance junkie
good on you ixion, thank you for doing that...
"Take life one day at a time. Make mistakes. Learn from them. Come out a better person. Never regret the things that have gotten you where you are today."
parting of the sensory
OK - you say you don't want to put shit in your body, so try something that is 'natural' then, like getting plenty of exercise, altering your diet and including lots of "brain food" (fish, Omega-3 oils, cereal, fresh fruit and veges, etc.) Try some 'herbal remedies' like tablets/supplements containing Griffonia, or St Johns Wort. That'd be better for you than alcohol, as rather than killing brain cells, wrecking your liver and depressing you as alcohol does, St Johns Wort actually enhances liver function AND acts as an anti-depressant, with no nasty side-effects like prescription anti-depressants.
Oh - chocolate can help too (just not before bed) - it contains phenylethylamine, which makes you feel good (like when you're in love). Look - a chemical! Like ethanol. Or serotonin. Or glucose. Or endorphins (released when you exercise or have sex). Chemicals can be good for you - just find the right ones.
If you got your brain working properly without being hindered by clouded emotions and feelings/thoughts you can't trust, at least you'd be in a position to sensibly evaluate things. At the moment, you're "not in your right mind". If nothing else, at least medication can help to lift you out of the black fog you're in so you can see things clearly.
I can understand you not wanting to get onto the whole antidepressant bandwagon, but if I were you, I'd at least try St Johns wort for a bit. I regret ever starting on antidepressants, and wish I'd been told there were alternatives, but maybe if I hadn't, I'd be dead or living under a bridge now. It's been a hell of a trip, one I wouldn't want to repeat, and it's still a little nightmarish at times, but now I *know* how things work for me and can make informed and careful choices.
... and that's what I think.
Or summat.
Or maybe not...
Dunno really....
parting of the sensory
Infract away!
I notice you deleted what I posted, but I stand by what I said. There are people contributing to this thread who are emotionally fragile; they don't need people who by their own admission think this thread is a waste of space coming in here and trying to stir up trouble. There may not have been name-calling by some of them, but they were casting aspersions and implying that those who have made themselves vulnerable by revealing some very personal stuff in here were somehow deluded or just being self-indulgent or weak.
I have had two sons who have been depressed, one of whom tried to kill himself several times. It is a VERY hard and tricky thing to deal with. If I'd said to him the things that were said on here by others, he wouldn't have gone, "Oh - I see; I just need to put a happy face on and harden up". He'd be dead now, and my family would have a lifetime of unhappiness as a result.
Depression is not a trivial matter, and is something that needs handling with care, not some ignorant oaf wading in with their boots on and trampling all over people's feelings.
Opinions are like arseholes - everyone has them, but it doesn't mean we need to be intimately acquainted with them.
Most of those who have posted on here have done so either because they needed help, or thought that posting their experiences/opinions it could help someone else. What was posted by the KBers I got stuck into was neither helpful, inciteful, informative or even mildly entertaining.
... and that's what I think.
Or summat.
Or maybe not...
Dunno really....
Forum whore
Viff, nothing was deleted, however some posts were moved to PD.
I reckon there is a time and a place... and shit fights generally dont have either on KB. Ixion was just cleaning up...
Forum whore
All true. But it is possible , as you have just exemplified, to reprove and castigate without resort to personal abuse.
parting of the sensory
Yes, it is.
I think this is the first time I have done this on a forum (and I am on many). It was just a measure of how angry I was, and perhaps it would've been more constructive to have said that instead, viz: "What you have said makes me feel very angry!"
It just seemed appropriate at the time.
BTW - where are these "moved" posts? I couldn't find them.
... and that's what I think.
Or summat.
Or maybe not...
Dunno really....
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